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re: How does Bama win the recruiting crystal ball every year?
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:00 am to TreyAnastasio
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:00 am to TreyAnastasio
Being on here makes the minutes on the bike go by much faster than music alone. Just realized this. Already on 20 minutes.
No hard feelings. Just passing the time. Work on that attitude though. :)
No hard feelings. Just passing the time. Work on that attitude though. :)
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Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:08 am to NGATiger
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When a West Monroe coach says he is the most talented but was the third best lineman on their
Wow this makes perfect sense. I wonder which coach said that.
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parents say that he plays scared
Parents?
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:19 am to TreyAnastasio
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1 out of every three years yall beat us
Actually it's more like 45% than 33% but please continue.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:22 am to northalabamacracker
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Parents?
Parents. Not experts, but have seen him in person more times than you have.
You can tell if an OL plays scared or not, it isn't exactly a science. Not like I said "All the parents are questioning his zone blocking technique and footwork. They said he plays too high, and guys get leverage on him and knock him off balance with a bull rush."
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:28 am to GumboPot
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when other coaches are on the golf course during the off season Nick Saban is doing work on the recruiting trail. Recruiting is Nick Saban's hobby. He loves it and he is damn good at it."
This is simple; it isn't just his hobby, it's his life. The guy knows football is his only redeeming legacy. Do a little research about his family life.
He is not the smartest kid in class, but a super smart kid that has relentless work ethic. It isn't a fun hobby. That's ludicrous. He's addicted to the control of it. He can't stop. He breathes it.
There are better recruiters pound for pound, but where saban edges his competitors is in the complete and utter obsession of it. He sacrifices his personal life to succeed on the football field, including his family time; all for a game.
Kudos to saban. He will be a legend to millions of strangers, and a stranger to his own family. Good trade
This post was edited on 2/6/14 at 11:29 am
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:36 am to TreyAnastasio
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Swing and a miss
This is his response to getting schooled. It's a little more creative than the lol emoticon, however.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:41 am to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
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BillyBobBlitzkrieg
I agree with everything in your post except:
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There are better recruiters pound for pound
If we're using the pound for pound metric I seriously doubt anyone surpasses Saban in recruiting. Given the fact Saban is vertically challenged (thus not very heavy) he has a distinct advantage from the get go.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:43 am to GumboPot
But you're comparing Alabama's probation riddled classes from 2002-2006 to the Saban era. Nevermind the coaching carousel during that time. Look at Dubose's classes from 1997-2000. Those were routinely in the top five. They just never got developed.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:47 am to GumboPot
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How does Bama win the recruiting crystal ball every year?
Easy.
NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS FOR ALABAMA IN THE SABAN ERA
2009
2011
2012
DRAFTEES FROM ALABAMA IN THE SABAN ERA
2009 - Andre Smith - 1st round
2009 - Glen Coffee - 3rd round
2009 - Antoine Caldwell - 3rd round
2009 - Rashad Johnson - 3rd round
2010 - Rolando McClain - 1st round
2010 - Kareem Jackson - 1st round
2010 - Javier Arenas - 2nd round
2010 - Terrence Cody - 2nd round
2010 - Mike Johnson - 3rd round
2010 - Marquis Johnson - 7th round
2010 - Brandon Deaderick - 7th round
2011 - Marcell Dareus - 1st round
2011 - Julio Jones - 1st round
2011 - James Carpenter - 1st round
2011 - Mark Ingram - 1st round
2011 - Greg McElroy - 7th round
2012 - Trent Richardson - 1st round
2012 - Mark Barron - 1st round
2012 - Dre Kirkpatrick - 1st round
2012 - Dont'a Hightower - 1st round
2012 - Courtney Upshaw - 2nd round
2012 - Josh Chapman - 5th round
2012 - DeQuan Menzie - 5th round
2012 - Brad Smelley - 7th round
2013 - Dee Milliner - 1st round
2013 - Chance Warmack - 1st round
2013 - DJ Fluker - 1st round
2013 - Eddie Lacy - 2nd round
2013 - Nico Johnson - 4th round
2013 - Barrett Jones - 4th round
2013 - Jesse Williams - 5th round
2013 - Quinton Dial - 5th round
2013 - Michael Williams - 7th round
This post was edited on 2/6/14 at 11:48 am
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:47 am to GumboPot
Luv the tears
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:49 am to GumboPot
cool post!!
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:49 am to GumboPot
I meant per efficiency through effort/result.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:50 am to GumboPot
This is the deal. Some wont like this. There are 5-6 programs that when they get an excellent coach and recruiter will be very difficult to beat in recruiting. NO particular order here:
Texas
USCw
Ohio State
Michigan- for now. FSU is primed to take this spot. the weak ACC and the new Final 4 format may change this.
Notre Dame
cough Phyllis
Texas
USCw
Ohio State
Michigan- for now. FSU is primed to take this spot. the weak ACC and the new Final 4 format may change this.
Notre Dame
cough Phyllis
This post was edited on 2/6/14 at 11:54 am
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:52 am to GumboPot
because nick saban works harder than any other coach at recruiting, to the point where they complain and get the ncaa to change rules because they cant keep up with a 60 year old man. im pretty sure he was working on 2015 on NSD
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:56 am to LSU Patrick
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This is his response to getting schooled. It's a little more creative than the lol emoticon, however.
So much fail Pat. The thread is about Nick Saban and he brought up the overall series record. So it was a fail, just like your post.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:56 am to CapstoneGrad06
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Look at Dubose's classes from 1997-2000. Those were routinely in the top five. They just never got developed.
Are there any online recruiting sites that go back that far (1997-2000)?
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:56 am to LSUANDY25
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Tornado Alley
The list you posted says it all. Until other teams step up and beat Bama to keep them out of the the playoffs or the National Title, Bama will continue to recruit better than everyone else. Plus Saban is a hell of a recruiter. He'll always get players in the league, but knocking them out of the Title contention a few years in a row will have to hurt their recruiting somewhat. Not that they won't pull great classes, just it won't be the same as it is now.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:58 am to BIGJLAW
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Luv the tears
I ain't even crying.
Seriously, if you read the OP it's compliment to Saban's recruiting ability.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:58 am to TreyAnastasio
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So much fail Pat. The thread is about Nick Saban and he brought up the overall series record. So it was a fail, just like your post.
So we're talking about current coaches at Bama and Auburn? If you don't want to bring up records of all the past coaches...
Malzahn is 1-0 vs Saban.
I'm back from the gym now. Had a good workout. Lord knows my out-of-shape arse needs it.
This post was edited on 2/6/14 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 2/6/14 at 12:05 pm to GumboPot
Max Prep and a few others were around back to the 1980s. Rivals was in its infancy around 2000 or so. Regardless, you seem to think that Alabama has only recruited well under Nick Saban. That couldn't be further from the truth. The problem is how onlline recrutiing services started around 2002, which was the beginning of Alabama's scholarship reductions and coaching carousel. It has skewed the view of Alabama football, prior to Nick Saban, for some younger fans.
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