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re: Has AU cut players due to oversigning like Saban has at Bama?

Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by tkane311
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Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:10 pm to
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What the hell would you fans/alumni want Chizik to do in this case?


Something that involved maintaining at least the guise of integrity
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:12 pm to
Saban culls his roster, if you do not work out , he cuts you. That is why he has the biggest advantage in College Football. If you oversign 5 players per year and cut to make room for them, that reduces your odds of making a poor evaluations by 20% per class. Teams like Ole Miss oversign due to grades, Alabama oversigns to increase the selection pool.

What is happening is that over a 5 year period, Saban is signing an extra class. This would not work unless players get processed.

Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:14 pm to
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What is happening is that over a 5 year period, Saban is signing an extra class


And over the last 5 years AU has signed more kids than Bama.
Posted by cyde
He gone
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Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:14 pm to
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Irons Puppet

Go away.
Posted by AUnite
The Tragic City
Member since Nov 2010
14828 posts
Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:15 pm to
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Are you all in or not?

I really dislike that saying.

At least make a spear out of a ladle or something.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:17 pm to
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What is happening is that over a 5 year period, Saban is signing an extra class. This would not work unless players get processed.









Yet AU has signed MORE than UA in the same 5 yr period.
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
16509 posts
Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:17 pm to
recruiting is sometimes like a crap shoot..They have to do the minimum that is required to stay on the team. Such as go to class, stay in shape, lift weights, show up for team meetings, and stay out of trouble. Most coaches dont air the kids dirty laundry out for everyone to see. So no one truly knows why a kid leaves unless the players makes a statement..I have yet to hear a kid talk bad about NS and Bama when he left..Now I have heard plenty of former Auburn players talk bad about their program.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:20 pm to
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If you oversign 5 players per year and cut to make room for them, that reduces your odds of making a poor evaluations by 20% per class.


Saban has oversigned 9-12 each of the last three years. That is about a 40% margin for error.

And yes, it is the single biggest competive advantage in college football for bama right now and a huge part of their success the last 3 years.
This post was edited on 1/16/12 at 2:21 pm
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
16509 posts
Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:23 pm to
so Tiger in Miami..Has NS broken any rules? If not, then I suggest he knows how to manage the numbers better then other coaches do.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:28 pm to
You do realize there is a difference between signing a kid to an LOI and that kid making it to campus. 25% or so of kids signed by Tubs never made it to school due to academics.
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:30 pm to
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At least make a spear out of a ladle or something.

A uniform piece? I dunno. I like the ideas which require some heavy-duty MacGyver action.
Posted by bona fide
Burma
Member since Jun 2010
8972 posts
Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:34 pm to
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Has AU cut players due to oversigning like Saban has at Bama?


Not sure about au, seems you should know the answer to that one.

I agree Saban does, can't argue with positive results.

There will be more and more transfers each year. Highly rated talent is just now getting stock piled, and there is only so many playing opportunities. Five star guys and some four star guys will not sit on a bench for three years, they will transfer. Same thing was happening at USC during Pete's run.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:37 pm to
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so Tiger in Miami..Has NS broken any rules?


No.

quote:

If not, then I suggest he knows how to manage the numbers better then other coaches do.


Certainly one way of looking at it. And I am not going to really disagree either considering he is paid a shitload of money at bama for one reason - to win at all costs. With that being his primary objective, I am inclined to agree his methods of oversigning are effective and technically within the rules (which are full of loopholes to begin with).
Posted by AUnite
The Tragic City
Member since Nov 2010
14828 posts
Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:38 pm to
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I like the ideas which require some heavy-duty MacGyver action.

Dude. A spear out of ladle is some MacGyver shite! Or manage to make some brass knuckles out of foil, rocks and wood.
Posted by ever43
Raleigh, NC
Member since Aug 2009
2947 posts
Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:40 pm to
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Where have they gone to put Au so far under scholly?


State prison
Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
Member since Jan 2009
27604 posts
Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:41 pm to
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Where have they gone to put Au so far under scholly?




State prison



This guy. He gets it.
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:42 pm to
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Dude. A spear out of ladle is some MacGyver shite! Or manage to make some brass knuckles out of foil, rocks and wood.

Yeah... a real MacGyver solution would be to build a crossbow.
Posted by AUnite
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Member since Nov 2010
14828 posts
Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:43 pm to
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Yeah... a real MacGyver solution would be to build a crossbow.

Ok, you do that and then post a pic
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:46 pm to
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Teams like Ole Miss oversign due to grades


And you said Auburn did because of grades. Sounds like you think Au = Ole Miss.
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:46 pm to
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Ok, you do that and then post a pic

I think MythBusters did it one time. Gotta go back and watch that.
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