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re: 5 star QB Justin Fields Decommits from Penn State
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:11 am to fibonaccisquared
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:11 am to fibonaccisquared
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I'm a giant pussy.
Say no more, kiddo.
That being said: I'll never post anywhere on this site other than the Florida board until the end of this season.
You guys can do it for a day or for the entire season, too. Or not, I won't hold your feet to the fire.
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:23 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Straws is a giant idiot.
FIFY
Has nothing to do with being a pussy. I've never said I'm overwhelmingly confident that he's coming to UGA. I have said on the other hand that your opinion that there was essentially no way he'd come here was off base. There is a ton of room there in the middle... I like our chances better at this point than I did a few months ago... but if Fromm continues to Fromm, a lot may depend on what Eason does. Besides... unless you know a recruit personally, trying to predict what an 18 year old is going to do is an exercise in futility... I've followed recruiting for way too long to make a wager on the outcomes short of accepting the dumb arse offer you put out there initially.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:47 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Supposedly he may be in AU this weekend. It seems like we are already hanging on by the thinnest of threads, if he doesn't show up this weekend you can go ahead and scratch us off the list for sure.
I'd be somewhat surprised if he goes to UGA though given what they have with Fromm. I think he probably wants to go there but he's also a sensible kid and I doubt he's going to go somewhere to sit for what will most likely be 3 years as I don't see Fromm leaving early no matter how successful he is a la Murray and Greene. If Kirby can convince the #1 player in the country to be a situation player for at least 2 years then
FSU makes the most sense given his finalists or even somebody like USC or LSU to get into the mix. Bias aside it wouldn't be very smart for him to go to UGA right now.
I'd be somewhat surprised if he goes to UGA though given what they have with Fromm. I think he probably wants to go there but he's also a sensible kid and I doubt he's going to go somewhere to sit for what will most likely be 3 years as I don't see Fromm leaving early no matter how successful he is a la Murray and Greene. If Kirby can convince the #1 player in the country to be a situation player for at least 2 years then
FSU makes the most sense given his finalists or even somebody like USC or LSU to get into the mix. Bias aside it wouldn't be very smart for him to go to UGA right now.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:19 pm to RandySavage
Jake Fromm is listed at 6'2" 229... tough to get a good read on how accurate that is though IMO. If we assume for now that number is correct though, the top 3 draft picks at QB (all first rounders) in 2017 were:
2nd overall - Mitch Trubisky - 6'2" 222
10th overall - Patrick Mahomes - 6'2" 225
12th overall - Deshaun Watson - 6'2" 221
Granted Mahomes and Watson are more dual threats (Trubisky was at one time an elite DT QB coming out of HS, but not highly utilized in college...) but Fromm is relatively quick/athletic at least in terms of movement in the pocket... don't yet know what he would do on any designed runs as we probably would prefer to wrap him in bubble wrap given our depth concerns at QB.
Not saying he'd "definitely go early" by any means... but was interesting to note that the difference in perception between 6'1" and 6'2" to NFL scouts is apparently a big gap. Question would probably be how does his velocity/power on deep throws develop over time. Right now not much is being asked of him on deep balls, but while he doesn't have Eason's cannon to chuck it 65+ down field... I think he's got enough to make all of the important throws.
And again... how does all this sort itself out with Eason... it's a big question mark. For now I'll trust Kirby and Co to do everything in their power, but certainly seems like we could have a good shot. Hell, Mitch Trubisky went #2 overall after only starting for a single season at UNC.
2nd overall - Mitch Trubisky - 6'2" 222
10th overall - Patrick Mahomes - 6'2" 225
12th overall - Deshaun Watson - 6'2" 221
Granted Mahomes and Watson are more dual threats (Trubisky was at one time an elite DT QB coming out of HS, but not highly utilized in college...) but Fromm is relatively quick/athletic at least in terms of movement in the pocket... don't yet know what he would do on any designed runs as we probably would prefer to wrap him in bubble wrap given our depth concerns at QB.
Not saying he'd "definitely go early" by any means... but was interesting to note that the difference in perception between 6'1" and 6'2" to NFL scouts is apparently a big gap. Question would probably be how does his velocity/power on deep throws develop over time. Right now not much is being asked of him on deep balls, but while he doesn't have Eason's cannon to chuck it 65+ down field... I think he's got enough to make all of the important throws.
And again... how does all this sort itself out with Eason... it's a big question mark. For now I'll trust Kirby and Co to do everything in their power, but certainly seems like we could have a good shot. Hell, Mitch Trubisky went #2 overall after only starting for a single season at UNC.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:41 pm to RandySavage
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I'd be somewhat surprised if he goes to UGA though given what they have with Fromm. I think he probably wants to go there but he's also a sensible kid and I doubt he's going to go somewhere to sit for what will most likely be 3 years as I don't see Fromm leaving early no matter how successful he is a la Murray and Greene. If Kirby can convince the #1 player in the country to be a situation player for at least 2 years then
Same fricking thing I said before the Georgia fans went epileptic. Let's not even talk about Fromm, who is running the offense well enough.
Let's talk about Eason who is only a Sophomore. So Fields would come in and immediately have to beat out Eason, a former 5-star quarterback, and then Fromm who is doing well enough. As you said:
If Kirby can tell the number 1 player in the country ''hey, come ride the pine for a few years'' and the guy comes, he's the best recruiter in the country.
He's going to beat out Blackman which will be a cinch at FSU. Francois won't be there after next year.
Outside of playing time, what is he waiting for? Location? He's close to all three top schools. Educational prestige (lol)? Pipelines to the NFL? FSU, UGA and Auburn got it.
All this shite he already knows. So is he waiting for a check to clear? Or promises to playing time? Seeing who's winning and losing?
Georgia fans need to get their heads on straight.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:47 pm to fibonaccisquared
Yea I mean a lot can happen over the next three years but Fromm just strikes me a Greene or Murray 4 year guy where Eason was always 3 and done.
I just think if he was going to commit to UGA what is he waiting for at this point? Now would be the time and I think it's pretty clear the reason he hasn't. Just gonna come down to what he decides is more important between getting on the field earlier or staying home and playing where his heart seems to be at the moment.
Given his dad's involvement and businesslike approach I'm hoping head wins out over heart.
I just think if he was going to commit to UGA what is he waiting for at this point? Now would be the time and I think it's pretty clear the reason he hasn't. Just gonna come down to what he decides is more important between getting on the field earlier or staying home and playing where his heart seems to be at the moment.
Given his dad's involvement and businesslike approach I'm hoping head wins out over heart.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:57 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
UGA's depth chart situation is more complicated than that. If Fromm's holds the job this season, it is likely that Eason would transfer. That would make Fromm the only scholarship QB on the roster, which means Fields would be one play away from being the starter, just like Fromm was in August.
That, and sometimes kids just decide that they like one place better than others. With how many times he's been in Athens vs. every other place, it looks like that might be the case.
That, and sometimes kids just decide that they like one place better than others. With how many times he's been in Athens vs. every other place, it looks like that might be the case.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:59 pm to Crowknowsbest
Right but he's still the clear #2. Again, we are talking about the #1 player in the country. It's extremely rare for someone of that caliber to say OK well I'll be ready in case the starter gets hurt.
It's certainly possible, hell probable, and I think that's what he's wrestling with right now.
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That, and sometimes kids just decide that they like one place better than others. With how many times he's been in Athens vs. every other place, it looks like that might be the case.
It's certainly possible, hell probable, and I think that's what he's wrestling with right now.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:11 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Georgia fans need to get their heads on straight.
Says the guy who's convinced we're being played because he wore an FSU shirt to school one day.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:15 pm to RandySavage
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Given his dad's involvement
This is exactly my problem with him. I was saying I was happy with Corral even if he is kind of a troublemaker (fightin' and drinkin'), but he committed right away. I prefer that than this circus.
Florida stopped recruiting him pretty quickly (even though we were at like 50% Crystal Ball to begin with) and went with another quarterback.
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I just think if he was going to commit to UGA what is he waiting for at this point?
Just doesn't make any sense, does it?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:18 pm to gatorhata9
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Says the guy who's convinced we're being played because he wore an FSU shirt to school one day.
So why do you think he wore an FSU shirt at his high school whilst living in Georgia? Tell me your interpretation.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:21 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
quote:You're either new to following recruiting or just a troll.
So why do you think he wore an FSU shirt at his high school whilst living in Georgia? Tell me your interpretation.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:21 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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So why do you think he wore an FSU shirt at his high school whilst living in Georgia? Tell me your interpretation.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:22 pm to superiortoyou1
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If Fromm is named the permanent starter, Eason will be on the first bus out of town as soon as the season ends
Probably already been on the phone with Chris Petersen all week.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:26 pm to RandySavage
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Right but he's still the clear #2. Again, we are talking about the #1 player in the country. It's extremely rare for someone of that caliber to say OK well I'll be ready in case the starter gets hurt.
I think he's being sold on the "the best player will start no matter their class" approach that Smart advocates. He's backed it up so far as we've been playing a lot of freshmen on both sides of the ball.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:28 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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So why do you think he wore an FSU shirt at his high school whilst living in Georgia? Tell me your interpretation.
Because it was a shirt in his closet that he likes? These recruits get shite from all these different schools they visit. He wore an auburn shirt a few weeks ago too. What t shirt a kid wears on a given week day is so meaningless that it's hard to put in to words.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:45 pm to gatorhata9
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Because it was a shirt in his closet that he likes? These recruits get shite from all these different schools they visit. He wore an auburn shirt a few weeks ago too. What t shirt a kid wears on a given week day is so meaningless that it's hard to put in to words.
Yeah, you don't accidentally wear a rival school's shirt.
Although this is coming from the fan base that thinks he's paying with his own money on unofficial visits to Georgia, so I suppose I have to take you guys with a grain of salt.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:48 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Do you realize that he's worn a UGA bracelet in every single picture including the FSU pic?
Also if Fromm starts and Eason transfers then he would redshirt the first season and be 2nd the next. JF would then have 2 maybe 3 seasons as starter, not to mention he's fine with redshirting.
Also if Fromm starts and Eason transfers then he would redshirt the first season and be 2nd the next. JF would then have 2 maybe 3 seasons as starter, not to mention he's fine with redshirting.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:54 pm to jcolding41
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Do you realize that he's worn a UGA bracelet in every single picture including the FSU pic?
Do these things matter or not? Because I'm getting mixed signals here.
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Also if Fromm starts and Eason transfers then he would redshirt the first season and be 2nd the next. JF would then have 2 maybe 3 seasons as starter, not to mention he's fine with redshirting.
So he sits out two seasons, minimum? Good luck with that, when he'd play in one at FSU. shite, he'd be the immediate backup and starting the next year.
Eason will probably see the field this year, and that's even worse for Georgia's possibility.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:20 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Although this is coming from the fan base that thinks he's paying with his own money on unofficial visits to Georgia, so I suppose I have to take you guys with a grain of salt.
I think you're lost on what unofficial vs official visit means. Unofficial means the cost of getting there, housing, food, etc.. is on him and his family to figure out. Official visits have everything paid for from the transportation, lodging, food, etc..
But please, carry on lecturing us about how T-shirts are more important than visits to a school that's 1.5-2 hours away.
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