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re: 5* RB Lorenzo Lingard to Miami

Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:18 pm to
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:18 pm to
No dog in the fight, but you are beyond delusional if you the McElwain is going to get fired anytime soon.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32795 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 9:58 pm to
He should be fired if he goes 7-5.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 2:31 am to
quote:

He should be fired if he goes 7-5.


He won't be fired next year period.

Muschamp got another year after 4 - 8, he'll get another year after 7 - 5. But we won't be nearly as optimistic.
Posted by Buddy2012
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
2861 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:30 am to
quote:

Richt is a beast on the running back market. Arguably the best head coach getting top tier backs consistently


Does he have a rb in the NFL other than Gurley? Not counting Crowell
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32795 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 12:04 pm to
I didn't say he would be but that he should be.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:20 pm to
Foley is not there to protect when Mac goes 7-5. Stricklin would be retarded not to fire him.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:37 am to
So what'll you say when Mac goes 10-2 or 11-1? Fire him still?
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 9:27 am to
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So what'll you say when Mac goes 10-2 or 11-1? Fire him still?


I wonder what he's going to say when Lingard decommits from Miami and signs with Florida?
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 4:18 pm to
He's not going 11-1. Nothing he's done has shown he is a fit here. His staff hires are meh, his teams don't adjust, His offenses have been garbage and his recruiting is not good enough to out talent other teams to overcome his bad coaching. His stubbornness in keeping NussChamp and Nord just proves this even more. He's group of 5 level coach.

Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

I wonder what he's going to say when Lingard decommits from Miami and signs with Florida?


This is pretty unlikely. If there is one thing that Richt does well, it's recruit skill players. Couple that with Thomas Brown who is a lights out recruiter at the RB position, and the fact that UF has not really found an offensive identity under Mac and let's just say that would be one surprising development. Not impossible, but I wouldn't hold your... on second thought you go ahead and hold your breath. It'll be better for everyone.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:47 pm to
I agree
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

He's not going 11-1. Nothing he's done has shown he is a fit here. His staff hires are meh, his teams don't adjust, His offenses have been garbage and his recruiting is not good enough to out talent other teams to overcome his bad coaching. His stubbornness in keeping NussChamp and Nord just proves this even more. He's group of 5 level coach.



You said your opinion in this post. I trust his judgement over yours on staff hires. His recruiting is not perfect, but it's good enough to win championships. He's had two teams at UF and both have shown flashes of being very good when we have good quarterback play. The offense works, he's just got to have players develop and improve because they're all young. We're rebuilding and when we go to SEC Championship Games in rebuilding years, I'll take that over UGA losing 5 games in a rebuilding year.

So now that you've dodged the initial question, I'll ask again since your reading comprehension skills may be lacking. What will you said when he goes 10-2 or 11-1 next year?
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:43 pm to
His recruiting is not good enough to win Championships. He's signed 60% 3*s and has taken on multiple projects. He's been destroyed by FSU AND Bama to a tune of 141-46. He's still not found a QB or even an adequate OL. You're dreaming man. We've had good QB play a total of two times vs UK and OM. If the offense worked it would be functional, not in the 100s. I see you're taking a page out of Butch Jones we're young, now. I called that one. There is nothing to rebuild, we're UF not Temple. We lost 4 games and didn't look competitive in most of them. UGA's recruiting gives them hope. What has Mac shown either in his hires, coaching, or recruiting that gives you this much hope? That's all you have. The ROI on this investment is based on fools gold and that's what Mac is. He's not going 10-2 or 11-1. He hasn't done it with an easy schedule last year and he's not doing it this year with ?s all over the defense, QB, OL, and coaching staff. You're delusional.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 7:51 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

He's not going 10-2 or 11-1.


What will you say if he does? I swear, for as poorly equipped as you are for intellectual discussion it doesn't surprise me that Georgia fans are lapping at your loins.

Just answer the question if he does, and what name your alter will be when he's still HC next year?
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 9:36 pm to
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What has Mac shown either in his hires, coaching, or recruiting that gives you this much hope?


Winning @LSU with considerably less talent in spite of an extensive injury report without a quarterback and our Right Guard playing Center.

It's small, but, uh, it looks pretty promising if you ask me.

What team in the East would you rather be than the one winning the division?
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 1:22 am to
Lsu was 8-4 and had an interim HC. UF won playing WM football. That is not what Mac was brought here do to. He was supposed to fix the offense and we're in yr 3 still waiting for it to be functional
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 6:47 am to
I'd say the OL is leaps and bounds better and more talented than when he took over, considering he had 6 total offensive linemen his first spring. Florida signed 68% four stars or better this class. I'm not going and looking at last class, but I'm sure if you take the number of four and five stars from the 2016 class and add in the 3 stars that performed like freshmen all SEC guys like Jawaan Taylor, David Reese, Vosean Joseph, and Lamichael Perine, then that number would be much higher. An average class ranking of 14th, which is really skewed because his first class was an outlier (ranked 121st in the country when he took over and he got it to 20th) is good enough to win a championship. Our average class ranking over the last few years is better than Clemsons average.

You downplay all of Mac's accomplishments and attempt to highlight the few things that he's done wrong so far. Yeah the East is bad, but I'd rather be the best team in a bad east. Especially in rebuilding years where we're still searching for our long term solution at quarterback. Keep on living in your bubble of negativity. You're delusional if you think Mac is getting fired after this year. And you still haven't answered the question, what will you say if Mac goes 10-2 or 11-1 next year? (Other than complain about the one loss and say how that loss proves Mac isn't the right coach for UF)
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 7:55 am to
Dude give the excuses a rest. The OL was average at best last year and we finished with the least rushing yards in a decade. 247 has us at 11 4*s and 1 2-3*s that's not 68% and I was speaking to the overall amount he's signed from 2015-17. Yes there's going to be some 3* studs but most of them haven't done a thing here. You're going off blind hope again. The stats say otherwise. Clemsons recruiting is good for them because they loaded up on elite OL-DT, an elite QB and good skill players. Mac has signed 7 top 100 players according to 247 from 2015-17. Dabo has signed 14 from 2014-2016. UF IS NOT REBUILDING. GIVE IT A REST. All he had to find was a QB and build OL depth. Even if he was rebuilding UF he's doing a terrible job. He's not going to win 10 or 11 games so the point is mute.
This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 7:59 am
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 8:51 am to
You could've just said you aren't going to answer the question instead of wasting your time writing a bunch of nonsense. I know you hate to hear this, but Go Gators
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 10:12 am to
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Lsu was 8-4 and had an interim HC. UF won playing WM football. That is not what Mac was brought here do to. He was supposed to fix the offense and we're in yr 3 still waiting for it to be functional




Their interim head coach only lost two of those games -- one to Alabama and one to us...so, it's a pretty significant win no matter how you boil it down.
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