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re: 247sports officially fudging numbers .... so much for an objective resource

Posted on 8/17/14 at 10:39 am to
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 10:39 am to
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Use the calculator. None of it is straight forward. Using the same example, Warmack dropped the total closer to what his total is worth. McGraw worth much more by their rankings, dropped it even less when removing him.

I know how that works. Why do you keep trying to talk about Warmack and McGraw?

Why did (per deep rig) the class calculator drop Bama more than their team ranking dropped? They're supposed to use the same formula
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 10:39 am to
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I know how that works. Why do you keep trying to talk about Warmack and McGraw? Why did (per deep rig) the class calculator drop Bama more than their team ranking dropped? They're supposed to use the same formula


Ah. Now I understand. Good question.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72184 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 10:40 am to
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Yea, well no shite. Did you not read the OP?


The OP is trying to create a conspiracy that doesn't exist.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72184 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 10:42 am to
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I know how that works. Why do you keep trying to talk about Warmack and McGraw?


They are two players that are not seen as solid. And it was just an example of two players with varying point totals.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63965 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 10:44 am to
quote:

I know how that works. Why do you keep trying to talk about Warmack and McGraw?

Why did (per deep rig) the class calculator drop Bama more than their team ranking dropped? They're supposed to use the same formula



Exactly.

I didn't just see he was worth 19 points and then use a pen and paper to subtract the points.

I actually used the calculator to remove him and that's how I got the 280 number. I didn't even know what the 19 or whatever was at the moment, as last night was my first time using that calculator, as also evidenced on the UGA recruiting thread.

Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25876 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 10:45 am to
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They are two players that are not seen as solid. And it was just an example of two players with varying point totals.

I understand how the distribution formula works. What deeprig is talking about has to do with what seems to be an inconsistancy in the formula or a malfunction in the class calculator.
Posted by crimsonian
Florida
Member since Jun 2012
7374 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 10:46 am to
Which means?

Officially fudging numbers?
This post was edited on 8/17/14 at 10:47 am
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 10:47 am to
In the end who really gives a shite. No matter the talent a team brings in they still have to produce and have a staff that can maximize that talent. Stars and rankings have very little value in the end except to be a part of a marketing formula to help sell subscriptions.
This post was edited on 8/17/14 at 10:48 am
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72184 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 10:47 am to
I've already pointed that out in my example.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63965 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 10:50 am to
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I understand how the distribution formula works. What deeprig is talking about has to do with what seems to be an inconsistancy in the formula or a malfunction in the class calculator.




The McGraw and Warmack thing is more about seeing what happens if one of them flips.... they are flip targets... so I went ahead and posted what their worth is per 247.... in a week when one of them flips to UGA and Bama only loses a half point in their ranking, we'll have evidence that the player was worth 7 points (or 1, or whatever, the number is arbitrary) and that it wont be reflected in Bama's ranking. Because of home cooking.


Not sure how a guy that is worth 25 points to UGA as a 4 star player when UGA already has a 5 star committed at the same position, but is then only worth 4 points to Alabama even though he was worth 19 points 12 hours ago.

Even if there is a perfectly logical explanation, that it is some anomoly in their curve, then frick that curve and frick the people that charge money for it.

I'm going to make my own curve, can't be more retarded that a curve that does what happenned last night.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72184 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 10:53 am to
So I just used the calculator and added Lebetter back. Guess what Alabama's point total went to? Back to 299.82. Where it was before. OP fail.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72184 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 10:54 am to
He's worth more points to Georgia than Alabama because you have less highly ranked players in your class currently.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25876 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 10:54 am to
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So I just used the calculator and added Lebetter back. Guess what Alabama's point total went to? Back to 299.82. Where it was before. OP fail.

Class Calculator fail, actually
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63965 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 10:59 am to
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So I just used the calculator and added Lebetter back. Guess what Alabama's point total went to? Back to 299.82. Where it was before. OP fail.


Thanks for the validation!!!!!! I didn't even think of trying to do a reverse calculation... now I'm validated that my numbers aren't horseshite.... it takes it back to where it was last night...


But to say I failed means I somehow pulled the 280 number out of my arse and that the calculator didn't actually give me that number last night.... my dog must have game me that number...

Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
14559 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:13 am to
It's sad that you care this much
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
10745 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:17 am to
Wow. Who cares.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:22 am to
Not a bit surprised. The biases there have been noticeable.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72184 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:38 am to
I think you did. Not one shred of evidence yet. Just you trying to start a conspiracy.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10568 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:43 am to
247 is so overrated by this board. They are pretty silly as of late. Capitalism has trumped objectivity.
Posted by tigers32
Member since Mar 2012
5623 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:08 pm to
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They are pretty silly as of late.

Some of the content from their national guys is pure crap.
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