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re: 2016 Five Star QB Shea Patterson -- Calvary Baptist (Shreveport, LA)
Posted on 2/16/15 at 10:54 am to cas4t
Posted on 2/16/15 at 10:54 am to cas4t
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you also attempted to diminish Cameron's accomplishments. Don't back pedal.
What by saying he hasn't developed his HS QBs? That's not diminishing...there is no accomplishment for Cam in that area.
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He should go to LSU because he would have more talent to work with on offense. You can't deny that. This is the recruiting board, so I'd be happy to visit our current rosters and compare. Not to mention the talent LSU is leading for in 2016.
Of course I can. The WR unit we have and will have after this class, shits on LSU's. That is a promise.
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Well then you should also agree that Cameron is directly responsible for turning Mett into an NFL QB in one year. That's the selling point on Shea, for LSU fans. Looking at Bo's numbers, he never really progressed like yall thought he would. He wasn't bad, but he hit his ceiling. Whereas Mettenberger went from a 3rd stringer, as a sophomore (while Bo was starting for OM, mind you) into an NFL strter in one year.
Come on, man. Bo was never ever ever going to be an NFL QB. We all knew that from day 1 all the way until his last snap as a Rebel. Correct, Bo reached his ceiling that ended up being a lot higher than everyone thought. How is that not a good selling point? Plus, Bo never had a healthy throwing shoulder. People say he should have taken more time to get it 100%...I don't think that shoulder can ever be close to 100% again. His throws just continuously got weaker down field as each season played out.
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 10:59 am to REBEL5 AC
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What by saying he hasn't developed his HS QBs? That's not diminishing...there is no accomplishment for Cam in that area.
Yes, it is diminishing. You're essentially calling him out for not doing something that he hasn't even had a chance to do.
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Of course I can. The WR unit we have and will have after this class, shits on LSU's. That is a promise.
LOL OK. Go look at 247 and come back. Not to mention the slew of RBs LSU has (one of which is regarded as a potential Heisman candidate-who will still split carries) and a potential top 5 OL group. There's more to SEC football then having above average WRs.
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Come on, man. Bo was never ever ever going to be an NFL QB.
Aha, well guess what? People said the same shite about Mett. He's got bad feet, he's immature, he takes too many hits, yadayadayada. That's the point. Cameron turned him from a 3rd string QB in 2011 to an NFL starter in one year in his system.
And if we're talking injuries with QB's, Mett had knee problems almost his entire tenure at LSU and even had surgery before the NFL draft.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 10:59 am to cas4t
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A top 3 team in the country should have more depth. You don't think OSU had injuries? lulz. Go look at bama. They were banged up too. It's football, guys get hurt. If you're the 3rd best team in the country then you have guys waiting to step up. Do you disagree?
Yes and no. I think preseason, your statement would be true, but you can't knock a team Week 7 because they could potentially have a player get hurt. We had no injuries to our starters in 2012. You just never know. You can't knock a team in a weekly poll because their back-ups weren't ranked as highly as Alabama's. Sometimes backups outproduce the starters. The injuries just happened in positions they could not happen. Freeze is building depth slowly on the OL, but you know how deep an OL needs to be. Nutt left us with zero talent on that OL.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:00 am to REBEL5 AC
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What by saying he hasn't developed his HS QBs? That's not diminishing...there is no accomplishment for Cam in that area.
You came to this conclusion after 1 year?
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:00 am to REBEL5 AC
I also asked you something about being a top 3 teaam on the last page.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:03 am to thunderbird1100
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You came to this conclusion after 1 year?
He also thinks Cam will turn BH into a great QB, apparently. He's making LSU fans argument for them when it comes to what Shea should do.
But we all know he's going to be a rebel anyway, so this is just for fun at this point.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:03 am to thunderbird1100
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You came to this conclusion after 1 year?
Good god. Did you ready any other posts? I have said 3-4 times that Cam hasn't yet(which is only being brought up because of LSU fans saying Shea should go to LSU because Freeze hasn't developed a HS QB, which he has), but Cam will develop Harris.
An example. This pot of water isn't gumbo yet, but it will be. I'm not saying he will never develop a HS QB. I'm just defending a point made about Hugh. Y'all trying to turn this into some pissing match =
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:04 am to REBEL5 AC
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Wait, why can Les recruit Mett, but Freeze can't recruit Kelly?
Mett was brought in and was able to witness one of the greatest seasons in CFB history as he got acclimated at LSU. If you think Chode Kelly came here to "compete" for the job you are idiotic. I think I know the answer to that already.
Do you think the families of Buchanan and Kincade are happy with this decision to bring in a guy who has been kicked out of one school and was recently arrested for threatening a bar crowd with an AK47? Really man.
This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 11:19 am
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:04 am to cas4t
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I also asked you something about being a top 3 teaam on the last page.
What did you ask?
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:04 am to cas4t
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:06 am to REBEL5 AC
Ok, so why should Shea choose OM over LSU? Because Cam hasn't proven what exactly?
Are you essentially saying there is the 'unknown factor' that Shea should take into account when it comes to Cam developing a HS QB?
Are you essentially saying there is the 'unknown factor' that Shea should take into account when it comes to Cam developing a HS QB?
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:07 am to BlackCloud
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On a side note....do you think OM will petition the SEC to let Chad Kelly wear the number 47 if he doesn't get arrested again?
Chad "AK" Kelly....#47.
You'll probably get some heat from OM fans for this one. Probably not the best number to bring up in this sense.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:07 am to HailFreezusOver
Do you know how many players on that list LSU currently leads for?
I'd be willing to make a bet with you on how 2016 recruiting ends up. Name it.
I'd be willing to make a bet with you on how 2016 recruiting ends up. Name it.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:08 am to REBEL5 AC
just go back a page and look
eta I gotta go. i'll try to check back later.
eta I gotta go. i'll try to check back later.
This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 11:12 am
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:14 am to BlackCloud
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On a side note....do you think OM will petition the SEC to let Chad Kelly wear the number 47 if he doesn't get arrested again?
Chad "AK" Kelly....#47.
Nah, we'll just leave that number for the Iraq veteran that invented the Landshark and died of cardiac arrest as an NFL rookie.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:14 am to cas4t
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Are you essentially saying there is the 'unknown factor' that Shea should take into account when it comes to Cam developing a HS QB?
Man, it isn't hard to understand my posts. An LSU fan laughed at Shea going to Ole Miss because Freeze hasn't developed a HS QB. Freeze has been there 3 years, Bo started all 3(reference to your Cam has been there 3, Mett was there for two of them statement). All I'm saying is he can't say that. He can't say Freeze has yet to develop a HS QB, but come to LSU. Will Cam develop Harris? Yes, but for this argument, it doesn't matter, because he hasn't.
Shea should pick Ole Miss because we run a more appealing offense, Bo was able to be successful, our WR group is absurdly stacked, we have the #2 class in the nation right now and wherever Shea goes, lots will follow. Freeze has two college QB's under his resume: Bo Wallace and Ryan Applin. That's a damn good resume for a coach that was an OC for one season, became the HC of that program the following season, and has now been an SEC head coach for three years. It truly is funny how blind y'all are at what Freeze has done with Ole Miss.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:16 am to cas4t
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just go back a page and look
eta I gotta go. i'll try to check back later.
I think I answered it. About the having backups? Just not sure you can apply that into rankings. Look at OSU. The chances of Cardale balling out is like 1:18457234810987
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:18 am to BallstotheWesleyWall
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Nah, we'll just leave that number for the Iraq veteran that invented the Landshark and died of cardiac arrest as an NFL rookie.
I remember him now...I will edit because I don't want to disrespect him in any way.
In the future I'll just refer to the new QB as Chode Kelly. Fair?
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:22 am to REBEL5 AC
Eveyone in this thread is making fantastic arguments for why Shea should come to Bama. We devolop high school QBs. Run a very nice pro style offense that translates well to the next level. Plus he will be in competition for titles every year. Plus we will surround him with better talent then anyone in the country.
Clearly Shea's best option is Alabama.
Clearly Shea's best option is Alabama.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:23 am to REBEL5 AC
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Both are wait and see's, but Freeze, at least, has Bo.
Bo actually was worse this year than last.
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