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re: Your Week 4 SEC Rankings

Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:56 am to
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:56 am to
Where is the hype for MSU coming from? They get a higher rank from you because they kept it close to LSU at the end? How can you justify that when the team they jump is the one they could only keep it close with?

They looked pedestrian against that Auburn team you're slamming as not a good win for LSU as well. Harris accounted for more points in his own than all of MSU against them.

Your arguments defending having MSU ahead of LSU at this point are about as weak as they could be.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:56 am to
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given size of stadium
we need more top analysis like this on the rant. size of the stadium = hard team to beat
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:00 am to
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you just mad that have LSU ranked lower than you like
so, lsu played their first game on the road in starkville, state had already played a game. lsu had a somewhat sloppy performance, had multiple scores/big plays called back because of penalties and has improved since then but, state is better because auburn has a big stadium. makes sense.
Posted by CNB
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:01 am to
Posted by sewaneerebel
Oxford, Ms
Member since Sep 2014
697 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:05 am to
1. Georgia
2. LSU
3. Ole Miss

4. 'Bama
5. A&M
6. MSU

7. Florida
8. Tennessee
9. Kentucky

10. Arkansas
11.Vandy
12.Missouri
13.South Carolina
14.Auburn
This post was edited on 9/27/15 at 11:06 am
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:08 am to
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we need more top analysis like this on the rant. size of the stadium = hard team to beat

That analysis from him is really the top of his game. You have to understand this is a Clemson 'fan' who really didn't know if they had a Heisman Trophy winner or not. And his whole argument for Clemson being a better program than Auburn is based on enrollment numbers from the mid 1900s.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73492 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:12 am to
Dipshit Clemson fan is dipshit Clemson fan.
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:17 am to
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Your arguments defending having MSU ahead of LSU at this point are about as weak as they could be.


I may have some bias for MSU given Clemson was modeled on MSU. I think have the better QB is key not losing games though. most important position by far.

I think LSU and MSU can probably flip, next couple of weeks I should be able to nail that one down.
This post was edited on 9/27/15 at 11:18 am
Posted by TeeteringBrink
Member since Feb 2007
1109 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:21 am to
Right now, UGA looks like the most balanced team in the conference.

Still too early for meaningful rankings though.
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:23 am to
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That analysis from him is really the top of his game. You have to understand this is a Clemson 'fan' who really didn't know if they had a Heisman Trophy winner or not. And his whole argument for Clemson being a better program than Auburn is based on enrollment numbers from the mid 1900s.


you discredit yourself by using 'retarded' as an insult.

I never made the argument Clemson is better than Auburn, my case is they are even in the modern era and Auburn is overrated as a program. I still think they are a decent program but seem to be more up and down than a lot of top programs.

I do think Auburn may be headed for a Michigan / TN type dry spell.

I did know Clemson didn't have a Heisman winner. but we have had some Heisman candidates, Woody Danzler, Deshaun Watson, Tajh Boyd, etc. I also said I don't care about personal awards.

my point based on enrollment figures is bulk of AUburn wins against Clemson were back in the day when Clemson was like 5000 students and Auburn was twice as big. Auburn and Clemson had not played since like 1971 until a few years ago. Clem won the last two so in the modern era, we hold our own with Auburn.
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:28 am to
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so, lsu played their first game on the road in starkville, state had already played a game. lsu had a somewhat sloppy performance, had multiple scores/big plays called back because of penalties and has improved since then but, state is better because auburn has a big stadium. makes sense.


I think everybody on here was projecting G Tech to be a great team this year and I said they probably would not be b/c they lost 4 of their RBs from last and top two WR, and didn't have a good defense last year which was obsure by fumble luck and some timely interceptions many of which went for TD.

so far they have looked horrible on offense.

I also said Cuse is a hard place to win and was widely ridiculed on here for including it my argument Clemson has a tough schedule this year.

It appears that I can see the stiches on the fastball.
Posted by LSUNV
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:28 am to
LOL

If you have to justify all your answers this much you are a very insecure person
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:32 am to
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If you have to justify all your answers this much you are a very insecure person


I am insecure and vulnerable. I don't deny that.

people make points on here, often distorting my arguments, and flogging the strawman that they created.

all I do is respond to that, it isn't justifying, it is correcting the record of what I said.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:35 am to
If the shoe fits...
And you absolutely said that you didn't know if Clemson had a Heisman trophy winner. I had to tell you that you didn't. And the reason they have none despite the great players that you mention is because your program is not very highly regarded.
Posted by OilfieldLSUFan
St Tammany Parish
Member since Sep 2015
267 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:38 am to
quote:

1. Georgia
2. LSU
3. Ole Miss

4. 'Bama
5. A&M
6. MSU

7. Florida
8. Tennessee
9. Kentucky

10. Arkansas
11.Vandy
12.Missouri
13.South Carolina
14.Auburn




1. Georgia
2A. LSU
2B. Ole Miss

4. Bama
5. A&M
6. MSU

7. Florida
8. Tennessee
9. Kentucky

10. Arkansas
11.Vandy
12.Missouri
13.South Carolina
14.Auburn
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:38 am to
I knew no Heismans not since 1996 or so. I never followed Clemson prior to that.

given I don't care about personnel awards, it follows that I would not have looked up to see if any Heismans prior to 96.

Clemson has Sammy Watkins, Nuk Hopkins and Martavius Bryant, Vic Beasley in the NFL right and doing well. and numerous other players.

there are a lot of NFL coaches at Clemson every year after the season to evaluate players. Bellichick, what's his face that coached for the Jets and now head coach at Bills, and others.
This post was edited on 9/27/15 at 11:42 am
Posted by OilfieldLSUFan
St Tammany Parish
Member since Sep 2015
267 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:42 am to
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Your Week 4 SEC Rankings
I knew no Heismans not since 1996 or so. I never followed Clemson prior to that.

given I don't care about personnel awards, it follows that I would not have looked up to see if any Heismans since then.

Clemson has Sammy Watkins, Nuk Hopkins and Martavius Bryant, Vic Beasley in the NFL right and doing well. and numerous other players.

there are a lot of NFL coaches at Clemson every year after the season to evaluate players. Bellichick, what's his face that coached for the Jets and now head coach at Bills, and others.


LSU has 40+ on NFL rosters currently. Your point is invalid. Go back to the ACC board where they might buy your bullshite.
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:43 am to
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LSU has 40+ on NFL rosters currently. Your point is invalid. Go back to the ACC board where they might buy your bull shite.


I wasn't comparing to LSU but Clemson beat your NFL players couple of years ago

Boyd, Deshausn Watson, Sammy Watkins, others came from out of state to Clemson and LSU no doubt recruited them.

Clemson had 35 in NFL on May 2014. And more players were drafted this year, so maybe over 40 now unless some retirements.

feel free to talk about SEC team rankings rather than dumping on Clemson. I think that I defended my rankings well.
This post was edited on 9/27/15 at 11:54 am
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 12:25 pm to
1. Ole Miss best win so 1
2. Lsu
3.. Georgia
4. Bama
5.. Florida
6. Aggies - Arky ot...you had to drop
7. Miss State
8. Kentucky
9. Tenn
10. Missouri
11. Arky
12. Usce
13. Vandy
14. Lol
Posted by pivey14
In Your Head
Member since Mar 2012
15445 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 12:36 pm to
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5 A&M

6 Florida
7 MSU


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