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re: Your team's record vs the AQ conferences?
Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:04 pm to Damn Good Dawg
Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:04 pm to Damn Good Dawg
Just been playing around with Stassen's Aggregate Conference Record tool and there's some interesting stuff:
Removing TAMU and Missouri from the grouping (just to make it easier) the other 12 SEC teams have winning records over every conference but the Big East and Ivy league.
Sun Belt: 107-7
WAC: 78-12
MAC: 73-15
CUSA: 102-22
PAC 12: 70-43
MWC: 11-7
ACC: 556-358-42
Big XII: 102-77-6
Big Ten: 85-70-6
IVY: 12-13
Big East: 26-32
There are obvious issues with Stassen, this only reflects current conference affiliation so for example Nebraska beating Tennessee in '97 counts as a loss to the Big Ten, not Big 12. Removing NU gives us a 76-52 record against the Big Ten.
Removing Pittsburgh and Syracuse from the ACC numbers we (current SEC-TAMU&UM) are 543-342-39 against them. Only one SEC team has never beat an ACC team: Arkansas. They've lost every single game they've played.
South Carolina and Arkansas's games before they joined the SEC frick up the numbers a little bit but it is what it is. Removing USC's record against the ACC when it was a member and independent we get an SEC record of 413-205-26.
Removing TAMU and Missouri from the grouping (just to make it easier) the other 12 SEC teams have winning records over every conference but the Big East and Ivy league.
Sun Belt: 107-7
WAC: 78-12
MAC: 73-15
CUSA: 102-22
PAC 12: 70-43
MWC: 11-7
ACC: 556-358-42
Big XII: 102-77-6
Big Ten: 85-70-6
IVY: 12-13
Big East: 26-32
There are obvious issues with Stassen, this only reflects current conference affiliation so for example Nebraska beating Tennessee in '97 counts as a loss to the Big Ten, not Big 12. Removing NU gives us a 76-52 record against the Big Ten.
Removing Pittsburgh and Syracuse from the ACC numbers we (current SEC-TAMU&UM) are 543-342-39 against them. Only one SEC team has never beat an ACC team: Arkansas. They've lost every single game they've played.
South Carolina and Arkansas's games before they joined the SEC frick up the numbers a little bit but it is what it is. Removing USC's record against the ACC when it was a member and independent we get an SEC record of 413-205-26.
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 6:10 pm
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:09 pm to KSGamecock
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but the Big East and Ivy league.
The Ivy League I get but the Big East is odd. Is there one matchup that skews if?
Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:15 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
I'm really confused now. I tried to look that up and I realized I'm wrong - Stassen isn't just current conference affiliation because it lists Mississippi State losing to WVU as a Big East loss.
So yea, the stuff I posted is even more fricked now. Maybe the numbers there are accurate or someone who understands it better can explain it to me.
Anyhow from the look of it Kentucky's frequent losses to Louisville are probably the biggest problem. A few teams are winless against the BE, Arky is 0-3, UGA and MSU are 0-2 and Vandy is 1-4. Had those teams done better we wouldn't be sitting at 26-32. It's just that we don't play them that often.
So yea, the stuff I posted is even more fricked now. Maybe the numbers there are accurate or someone who understands it better can explain it to me.
Anyhow from the look of it Kentucky's frequent losses to Louisville are probably the biggest problem. A few teams are winless against the BE, Arky is 0-3, UGA and MSU are 0-2 and Vandy is 1-4. Had those teams done better we wouldn't be sitting at 26-32. It's just that we don't play them that often.
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:17 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:In the 80's Miami & Va tech went 20-8 vs the SEC, in the '00's WVU went 5-1... so thats 25-9 right there...
The Ivy League I get but the Big East is odd. Is there one matchup that skews if?
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:17 pm to KSGamecock
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Only one SEC team has never beat an ACC team: Arkansas. They've lost every single game they've played.
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The Ivy League I get but the Big East is odd. Is there one matchup that skews if?
As dallas said they used to be better. That and my guess is that when most SEC teams play Big East schools they are in lower tier bowl match ups so it's the higher finishing Big East school and usually an SEC school that's low as shite in the bowl lineup. If that makes any sense.
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:18 pm to Damn Good Dawg
ACC: 114-100-12
Boston College: 1-1
Clemson: 9-3-1
Duke: 3-2
Florida State: 34-22-2
Georgia Tech: 9-24-6
Maryland: 12-6
Miami: 26-29
North Carolina: 2-7-1
North Carolina State: 9-4-1
Pittsburgh: 0-0-1
Syracuse: 2-2
Virginia: 1-0
Virginia Tech: 2-0
Wake Forest: 4-0
B1G: 10-7
Illinois: 2-0
Indiana: 0-1
Iowa: 2-1
Michigan: 0-2
Michigan State: 0-1
Nebraska: 0-2
Northwestern: 2-0
Ohio State: 2-0
Penn State: 2-0
Big XII: 6-3-1
Baylor: 1-0
Kansas State: 2-0
Oklahoma: 1-0
Oklahoma State: 1-0
Texas: 0-2-1
West Virginia: 1-1
PAC 12: 7-5
California: 2-0
Oregon: 1-0
UCLA: 2-3
USC: 1-0-1
Utah: 1-0
Washington: 0-1
Boston College: 1-1
Clemson: 9-3-1
Duke: 3-2
Florida State: 34-22-2
Georgia Tech: 9-24-6
Maryland: 12-6
Miami: 26-29
North Carolina: 2-7-1
North Carolina State: 9-4-1
Pittsburgh: 0-0-1
Syracuse: 2-2
Virginia: 1-0
Virginia Tech: 2-0
Wake Forest: 4-0
B1G: 10-7
Illinois: 2-0
Indiana: 0-1
Iowa: 2-1
Michigan: 0-2
Michigan State: 0-1
Nebraska: 0-2
Northwestern: 2-0
Ohio State: 2-0
Penn State: 2-0
Big XII: 6-3-1
Baylor: 1-0
Kansas State: 2-0
Oklahoma: 1-0
Oklahoma State: 1-0
Texas: 0-2-1
West Virginia: 1-1
PAC 12: 7-5
California: 2-0
Oregon: 1-0
UCLA: 2-3
USC: 1-0-1
Utah: 1-0
Washington: 0-1
Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:18 pm to Damn Good Dawg
Never seen that gif
Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:20 pm to KSGamecock
I'm guessing it's counting the conference they were in at the time the game was played? I dunno
Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:20 pm to GregYoureMyBoyBlue
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Now take out GT and Clemson.
So essentially take out the two best records and it doesn't look as good? Shocker
Yes. Take out GT and Clemson. Then take out every game that we won against every team.
Dang. That doesn't look so good now.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:21 pm to GoldenDawg
We still were 33-26-5 so at least we still kick arse. Our issues came against UVA and UNC oddly enough
Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:23 pm to Damn Good Dawg
Well I made it sound worse than it really is for Arkansas. Yes, they have lost every game they've ever played against the ACC but they've only played three:
1995 Carquest Bowl vs. UNC. L 20-10
1981 Gator Bowl vs. UNC. L 31-27
1961 Cotton Bowl vs. Duke. L 7-6
1995 Carquest Bowl vs. UNC. L 20-10
1981 Gator Bowl vs. UNC. L 31-27
1961 Cotton Bowl vs. Duke. L 7-6
Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:24 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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I'm guessing it's counting the conference they were in at the time the game was played? I dunno
I hope so. That would make the first set of numbers I posted (the ones without the commentary below) correct. I would think it would mean I could group Missouri and Texas A&M along without causing any problems.
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 6:25 pm
Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:26 pm to KSGamecock
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1995 Carquest Bowl vs. UNC. L 20-10
1981 Gator Bowl vs. UNC. L 31-27
1961 Cotton Bowl vs. Duke. L 7-6
Oh. Well in that case they need to get off their arse and schedule some ACC folk. There's more in this world than the SWC and PAC 12 you dorks
Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:27 pm to KSGamecock
If the total number of games shoot up by like 500 then you'll know 
Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:35 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
They went up by 800. frick it. This is simple but I don't know how to do this shite. I mean I know how, just run it like that then run another for your time in the Big Twelve and subtract those games out...but I'm lazy.
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:35 pm to GoldenDawg
You gotta remember too that the ACC didn't start till 1953...so leaving out aTm & Mizzou(too new)SEC team records vs the ACC (includes SCe, Miami, VT etc. when they entered)...etc
UA...21-3
AU...33-10
Ark...0-3
OM...1-3
MSU...4-5
LSU...19-2
UGA...71-25-5
UF...29-22-2
UT...35-15-1
SCe...120-111-6
VU...31-23
UK...11-11-1
mcubed.net example
Click on ACC & scroll down it will show you every Bama ACC game played when the opponent was in the ACC.. i.e. doesn't include wins over SCe when they were Ind. or in the SEC(only ACC games)...
UA...21-3
AU...33-10
Ark...0-3
OM...1-3
MSU...4-5
LSU...19-2
UGA...71-25-5
UF...29-22-2
UT...35-15-1
SCe...120-111-6
VU...31-23
UK...11-11-1
mcubed.net example
Click on ACC & scroll down it will show you every Bama ACC game played when the opponent was in the ACC.. i.e. doesn't include wins over SCe when they were Ind. or in the SEC(only ACC games)...
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:38 pm to Damn Good Dawg
ACC--Missouri leads 5-4 (.556)
Missouri tied with Clemson (1-1)
Missouri leads North Carolina (3-0)
Missouri leads Virginia (1-0)
Missouri trails Maryland (0-3)
Big 12--Missouri trails 335-339 (.497)
Missouri leads Baylor (10-4)
Missouri leads Colorado (41-31)
Missouri leads Iowa State (61-34)
Missouri leads kansas (57-54)
Missouri leads kansas State (59-33)
Missouri trails Nebraska (36-65)
Missouri trails Oklahoma (24-67)
Missouri leads Oklahoma State (29-23)
Missouri trails Texas (6-17)
Missouri trails Texas A&M (6-8)
Missouri leads Texas Tech (6-3)
Big 10--Missouri trails 46-56 (.451)
Missouri leads Illinois (17-7)
Missouri trails Indiana (3-6)
Missouri leads Iowa (7-6)
Missouri tied with Michigan (2-2)
Missouri trails Michigan State (3-5)
Missouri leads Minnesota (4-3)
Missouri leads Northwestern (5-4)
Missouri trails Ohio State (1-10)
Missouri trails Penn State (1-3)
Missouri trails Purdue (2-6)
Missouri trails Wisconsin (1-4)
Pac 12--Missouri trails 12-14 (.462)
Missouri leads Arizona (3-0)
Missouri leads Arizona State (4-3)
Missouri trails California (2-4)
Missouri leads Oregon (1-0)
Missouri trails Oregon State (0-2)
Missouri trails Stanford (0-1)
Missouri trails UCLA (0-2)
Missouri trails USC (1-2)
Missouri leads Washington State (1-0)
SEC--Missouri leads 27-15 (.643)
Missouri tied with Alabama (2-2)
Missouri leads Arkansas (3-2)
Missouri tied with Auburn (1-1)
Missouri leads Florida (2-1)
Missouri trails Georgia (1-2)
Missouri tied with Kentucky (2-2)
Missouri leads LSU (1-0)
Missouri leads Ole Miss (6-1)
Missouri leads Mississippi State (2-0)
Missouri tied with South Carolina (2-2)
Missouri leads Tennessee (2-0)
Missouri leads Vanderbilt (3-2)
Mizzou's best winning percentage by far is against the SEC
Missouri tied with Clemson (1-1)
Missouri leads North Carolina (3-0)
Missouri leads Virginia (1-0)
Missouri trails Maryland (0-3)
Big 12--Missouri trails 335-339 (.497)
Missouri leads Baylor (10-4)
Missouri leads Colorado (41-31)
Missouri leads Iowa State (61-34)
Missouri leads kansas (57-54)
Missouri leads kansas State (59-33)
Missouri trails Nebraska (36-65)
Missouri trails Oklahoma (24-67)
Missouri leads Oklahoma State (29-23)
Missouri trails Texas (6-17)
Missouri trails Texas A&M (6-8)
Missouri leads Texas Tech (6-3)
Big 10--Missouri trails 46-56 (.451)
Missouri leads Illinois (17-7)
Missouri trails Indiana (3-6)
Missouri leads Iowa (7-6)
Missouri tied with Michigan (2-2)
Missouri trails Michigan State (3-5)
Missouri leads Minnesota (4-3)
Missouri leads Northwestern (5-4)
Missouri trails Ohio State (1-10)
Missouri trails Penn State (1-3)
Missouri trails Purdue (2-6)
Missouri trails Wisconsin (1-4)
Pac 12--Missouri trails 12-14 (.462)
Missouri leads Arizona (3-0)
Missouri leads Arizona State (4-3)
Missouri trails California (2-4)
Missouri leads Oregon (1-0)
Missouri trails Oregon State (0-2)
Missouri trails Stanford (0-1)
Missouri trails UCLA (0-2)
Missouri trails USC (1-2)
Missouri leads Washington State (1-0)
SEC--Missouri leads 27-15 (.643)
Missouri tied with Alabama (2-2)
Missouri leads Arkansas (3-2)
Missouri tied with Auburn (1-1)
Missouri leads Florida (2-1)
Missouri trails Georgia (1-2)
Missouri tied with Kentucky (2-2)
Missouri leads LSU (1-0)
Missouri leads Ole Miss (6-1)
Missouri leads Mississippi State (2-0)
Missouri tied with South Carolina (2-2)
Missouri leads Tennessee (2-0)
Missouri leads Vanderbilt (3-2)
Mizzou's best winning percentage by far is against the SEC
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:39 pm to dallasga6
For the brave and bored maybe somebody could figure out how the Southern Conference, if it continued with the members it had in 1922, would look today against other conferences. That'd be a pain though.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:42 pm to parkjas2001
I don't know why anyone would discredit UGA wins vs Tech and Clemson. They have had some very strong eras.
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:47 pm to KCM0Tiger
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Big 10--Missouri trails 46-56 (.451)
Missouri leads Illinois (17-7)
I'm surprised that series isn't played more often.
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