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Posted on 1/5/12 at 12:56 pm to TheCheshireHog
Posted on 1/5/12 at 12:56 pm to TheCheshireHog
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Do A&M and Mizzou fans actually believe this? Love both schools joining the SEC but the Big 12 is still going to be one of the Big 4 conferences when all is said and done.
Yes, B12 is dead man walking. The decline will be slow but it is rotting from the inside out due to the TEXASS cancer. Only in the later stages will you see how much of a joke it really is. Trust me from one on the inside, so to speak. It wont take long, 3-4 years at most. It is dead but the heart has a couple of beats left.
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Posted on 1/5/12 at 12:59 pm to Big12fan
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The Big 12 just became a better football conference.
You're telling us this in a year where the Big12 conference champion got shut out of the title game so two schools from the SAME conference end up playing for the crystal football? And the Big12 is losing (another) one of it's biggest brands to the same aforementioned conference?
What your post lacks in substance, it makes up for in balls. Props
Posted on 1/5/12 at 12:59 pm to SunHog
I was planning on rooting for all of the teams from our new conference in the bowl games but good lord you Arkansas fans on here are obnoxious. I am sure you will win, but i will be pulling hard for K-State tomorrow, you guys are unbearable. Congrats, you were able to beat a crappy A&M team 3 years in a row, but you would think you guys contend for the SEC title every year as much sh*t as yall talk.
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Posted on 1/5/12 at 1:07 pm to Sherwood Brotron
Well, they were ranked #3 in the SECw and the nation at one point this year--you know us Ags would be doing plenty of shite talking if the shoe were on the other foot. Plus, still raw from our multiple OT ordeal with the little apple kitties, so Woo Pig in the CB!
Posted on 1/5/12 at 1:07 pm to Sherwood Brotron
They do an amazing job of presenting a united troll front. The coordination is scary.
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Posted on 1/5/12 at 1:10 pm to Big12fan
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In terms of performance on the field, the evidence is clear that adding TCU & West Virginia to the Big 12 has made it a stronger football conference.
It saved the Big 12 for the time being.
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I'll even go 1 step further - Either TCU or WVa is better than either A&M & Mizzou in football.
That's a close call. Missouri and A&M will continue to improve. Recruiting will improve for them as well,imo.
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The Big 12 just became a better football conference.
The Big 12 lost Nebraska, Colorado, A&M, and Missouri. There's a reason for this. The SEC lost NO teams. The Big 12 isn't as strong as they were but they're not collapsing, just weakened.
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Now you can argue all you want about potential and all that other stuff. Potential just means that you haven't done it yet.
Are you kidding? The SEC is strong EVERY year. There's a good reason for that as well. The addition will benefit Missouri and A&M and their addition will make the SEC even stronger.
Posted on 1/5/12 at 2:07 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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You're telling us this in a year where the Big12 conference champion got shut out of the title game so two schools from the SAME conference end up playing for the crystal football? And the Big12 is losing (another) one of it's biggest brands to the same aforementioned conference?
Yes that is exactly what I am saying, although your reasoning about 2 sec teams in championship have nothing to do with the strength of the league. Using that reasoning, you'd have to say that every league except the SEC got weaker. This is not about league comparison. Its about the comparison of 4 schools in football only. Nothing else.
And for those of you who say that both MU & A&M will benefit by having better recruiting, what do you think will be the recruiting result for TCU & WVa? Both schools will only get better. Until Mizzou or A&M win as consistently as these 2 schools and win a significant bowl, the questions about the quality of their respective programs will remain. A&M, is better suited for this than Mizzou imho. Mizzou has most likely peaked.
Posted on 1/5/12 at 2:18 pm to Big12fan
You're still not getting that the Big 12 is much more difficult to win in than the Mountain West and the Big East. TAMU and Mizzou would look just as impressive in the Big East as West Virginia does.
Posted on 1/5/12 at 2:21 pm to KCM0Tiger
What an idiot.
Texass trolling at its best.
Texass trolling at its best.
Posted on 1/5/12 at 2:27 pm to KCM0Tiger
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You're still not getting that the Big 12 is much more difficult to win in than the Mountain West and the Big East. TAMU and Mizzou would look just as impressive in the Big East as West Virginia does.
He wont acknowledge these facts. IT doesnt fit his agenda.
Its the same, back-arse-wards thinking coming out of Bevo's arse, where Tex-tards think we will get steam rolled playing better competition in the SEC yet TCU and WVU will rise to the occasion of playing in much better competition in the Big 12.
Going from Big 12 schedule to an SEC schedule is less of a jump than going from MWC or Big Easy conf to the Big 12.
The more the arguments come out of the old Big 12 along these lines the more desperate they look trying to defend the failures of their conference.
Posted on 1/5/12 at 2:28 pm to Big12fan
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Mizzou has most likely peaked.
Exhibit 1, SEC colleagues, on Texass self-absorption and delusion.
Quite the opposite is the case, my short-horned friend. You are staring at the floor for Mizzou, not the ceiling. Since we punked you on the way out the door, I am quite happy with that being the floor. Enjoy the LHN and Big 9 next year, arse clown.
Posted on 1/5/12 at 2:30 pm to Sherwood Brotron
quote:Thats how the "Flagship" roles on here....
Arkansas fans on here are obnoxious
Posted on 1/5/12 at 2:30 pm to Big12fan
Is it a given WV will be playing in your conference next year? Isn't there a litigation problem? A 9 team conference sounds fantastic
Posted on 1/5/12 at 2:31 pm to kilo
quote:Not entirely true. The SEC isn't losing any teams in this deal so Mizzou and A&M will be playing the current roster of teams which is already better than the Big 12.
Going from Big 12 schedule to an SEC schedule is less of a jump than going from MWC or Big Easy conf to the Big 12.
In the Big 12 however, WVU and TCU won't be playing A&M or Mizzou because they have left the conference so they are theoretically playing a weaker conference schedule than what they would face if the Big 12 hadn't lost any teams.
Don't get me wrong. They are definitely going to have more of an adjustment than A&M or Mizzzou in regards to the week in week out grind but I just don't think it's as big of a gap as people like to believe because two of the Big 12's better teams won't be on the schedule.
Posted on 1/5/12 at 2:40 pm to TheCheshireHog
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Not entirely true. The SEC isn't losing any teams in this deal so Mizzou and A&M will be playing the current roster of teams which is already better than the Big 12.
In the Big 12 however, WVU and TCU won't be playing A&M or Mizzou because they have left the conference so they are theoretically playing a weaker conference schedule than what they would face if the Big 12 hadn't lost any teams.
Yes, I see your point.
There is no question going from the MWC to the BIG 12(-aTtm,MU) is a huge jump up in competition. The Big East since VTECH and Miami left (which coincidentally aligns with the WVU rise
) is in between MWC and Big 12. Mizzou and aTm are better equipped to handle the transition.
I couldnt believe how weak WVU and TCU are on both the OL and the DL.
Check it out for yourselves, they are not prepared for playing in a true BCS conference every week and will be exposed until they recruit some size and depth in their LB's and OL/DL.
Posted on 1/5/12 at 2:49 pm to kilo
Oh I know, I've watched almost every single WVU game this season. They definitely won't be winning the conference next year. However, I see them beating ISU, KU, TTU and Baylor if RG3 doesn't return. They will get throttled by OSU and OU for sure because of their line strength. KSU and UT are toss up games imo and are the one's they could easily lose because they are beat up and will get pushed around.
No clue on how TCU will do. They looked bad arse at the end of the year but yet again that is the MWC and not the Big 12. I definitely think they will struggle at first and never be as good as they were the last decade. Their best hope is to just be good enough to be a perennial 8-4 team that stays above the schools out in the middle of nowhere in the conference.
No clue on how TCU will do. They looked bad arse at the end of the year but yet again that is the MWC and not the Big 12. I definitely think they will struggle at first and never be as good as they were the last decade. Their best hope is to just be good enough to be a perennial 8-4 team that stays above the schools out in the middle of nowhere in the conference.
Posted on 1/5/12 at 3:11 pm to Nuts4LSU
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That's one game, easily the biggest in their history. It's what you can put in the stands every week that affects long-term success (along with other factors of course). Averaging 38k in your best season ever and 42k the following year isn't going to cut it in a major conference, if the Big XII remains such. Those are Ole Miss and Vandy caliber numbers.
24,607 announced fans at the Poinsettia Bowl agree with this statement.
Posted on 1/5/12 at 3:28 pm to Wolfpacleader
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OSU has T Boone Pickens, and that's why they have recently started having sucess.
Yup, but they aren't in the state of Texas like TCU. TCU is building the exact same shinny stuff OSU has while having a better located campus and nightlife.
Posted on 1/5/12 at 3:30 pm to Nuts4LSU
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And in their best season ever, they only managed to get 38k a game to their home games. The following year (when the effect of the best season in history should be felt with increased ticket sales), it only went up to 42k. Distance is not the issue. Size, depth and interest of the fan base are their problems. And nobody outside of Fort Worth could care less about them.
Follow along.
Their best season ever never included top programs like OU and Texas on the schedule to draw attendance which it will next year.
Posted on 1/5/12 at 3:31 pm to XUglow
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24,607 announced fans at the Poinsettia Bowl agree with this statement.
To be fair, their fan base was probably a little disappointed they got left out of a BCS bowl and instead were shipped off to San Diego to play La Tech as a consolation prize.
Kind of like how Georgia-MSU rocked a strong 49,429 this season for a bowl game neither one of them wanted to be in.
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