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re: Would you rather your school be ranked #1 in football or academics?
Posted on 12/9/15 at 2:25 pm to JustSomeGuy111
Posted on 12/9/15 at 2:25 pm to JustSomeGuy111
I just don't tell people where I went to school.
So Football it is.
So Football it is.
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 2:29 pm to randomways
All of those who are serious when answering football are case in point why academics in the south (including Texas) are a joke. To say all state schools are practically the same (especially when comparing Ole Miss to OSU) is absurd. While universities can undoubtedly offer more value than just what their US News & World Report ranking claims they do and in some cases offer much better educational opportunities than higher-ranked schools, to discredit the rankings because they don't cast your alma mater in a positive light when compared to universities across the country is just a head in the sand approach to higher education that is sadly way too similar to the culture of handing out participation awards to everyone in youth sports.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 2:30 pm to randomways
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That's just ridiculous
yet you confirm it with your next sentence
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Yes, schools have means of manipulating their acceptance rate, and other factors (such as the number of applicants in toto) play a part
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But there is a fairly demonstrable correlation between acceptance rates and the difficulty of getting into a school.
which is easily disputed because of the applicant pool and how students apply.
And you further clarify the point with this statement below
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Vanderbilt accepts something like 13% of applicants because it rejects ones below a certain threshold, not because it decided that "13%" would be a super-awesome percentage to settle on.
What threshold is that? acceptance rate threshold or qualifications? And if acceptance rate were a meaningful statistic then why wouldnt they decide on that super awesome percentage to settle on?
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This is just basic common sense.
something based upon above, you might be lacking.
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One of the reasons OSU has 60k students is because they accept more than half their applicants.
The reason they have 60k students is because they have a much larger more qualified applicant pool, not because of an acceptance rate
Posted on 12/9/15 at 2:31 pm to Tuscaloosa
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The truth of the matter is that very few people here would have gone to school at their SEC Alma Mater if they didn't have a football team to root for.
Exactly...this is why so few people want to go to Harvard or Yale. Who would want to go to an Ivy League school when they could go to Bama?
Posted on 12/9/15 at 2:33 pm to JustSomeGuy111
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See subject line.
see your way out suckeye turd
Posted on 12/9/15 at 2:33 pm to JustSomeGuy111
Academics. 
What a bunch of queers.
What a bunch of queers.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 2:34 pm to Roc Nation
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All of those who are serious when answering football are case in point why academics in the south (including Texas) are a joke. To say all state schools are practically the same (especially when comparing Ole Miss to OSU) is absurd. While universities can undoubtedly offer more value than just what their US News & World Report ranking claims they do and in some cases offer much better educational opportunities than higher-ranked schools, to discredit the rankings because they don't cast your alma mater in a positive light when compared to universities across the country is just a head in the sand approach to higher education that is sadly way too similar to the culture of handing out participation awards to everyone in youth sports.
Okay.
I just assumed that some people who already have jobs don't really care if their alma mater is 100 or 90 in what are kind of bogus rankings anyway, and would get more out of a football championship.
This post was edited on 12/9/15 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 12/9/15 at 2:40 pm to oman
football ... cause Nick said so ...
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 2:41 pm to oman
Aggie, read the question posed in the title of this thread. Do you think, given A&M size and roll as a state school, that it has more realistic chance of being #1 in football or #1 in academics?
If I were an Aggie, the most rational desire I would have would be to be No. 1 in football, because even though that is not likely to happen, it's infinitely more possible that A&M being No. 1 in academics.
If I were an Aggie, the most rational desire I would have would be to be No. 1 in football, because even though that is not likely to happen, it's infinitely more possible that A&M being No. 1 in academics.
This post was edited on 12/9/15 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 12/9/15 at 2:44 pm to JustSomeGuy111
I'd ultimately choose to do what one of my childhood friends did. He got his undergrad from Vanderbilt and his MBA from Virginia and to this day is still a die hard "sidewalk" Bama fan.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 2:44 pm to randomways
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Acceptance rate is rather important part of the discussion of how easy, or hard, it is to get into a university. Size of the student body is a relevant factor in the same question, since it reflects, to some degree, the exclusivity of the school.
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The average ACT score composite at Ohio State University is a 28.
The average SAT score composite at Ohio State University is a 1864
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The average ACT score composite at Ole Miss is a 24
The average SAT score composite at Ole Miss is a 1091. (This school did not report a Writing section score, so this score is out of 1600.) This score makes Ole Miss Competitive for SAT test scores.
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 2:49 pm to NYCAuburn
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yet you confirm it with your next sentence
Um...no. I never said or implied -- I even went out of my way to emphasize the modifier on another point -- that it was the end-all and be-all. Just that it was a legitimate article to examine. None of your counterarguments even remotely disprove that.
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What threshold is that? acceptance rate threshold or qualifications? And if acceptance rate were a meaningful statistic then why wouldnt they decide on that super awesome percentage to settle on?
I can't tell if you're serious or trolling. I think there's some Internet "rule" to that effect. Do you seriously think universities sit around and decide that their qualification for accepting students revolves around what acceptance rate they decided would be best?
Posted on 12/9/15 at 2:51 pm to Govt Tide
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I'd ultimately choose to do what one of my childhood friends did. He got his undergrad from Vanderbilt and his MBA from Virginia and to this day is still a die hard "sidewalk" Bama fan.
He's, like, my twin. I got mine from Vanderbilt and UNC respectively. Well, not an MBA, but a masters all the same. We should get together and swap wiv...er, stories.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 2:52 pm to JustSomeGuy111
academics... easily...
Posted on 12/9/15 at 2:55 pm to JustSomeGuy111
Football. Next question.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 2:56 pm to JustSomeGuy111
Athletics because I already graduated and have a successful career
Posted on 12/9/15 at 3:09 pm to JustSomeGuy111
Lol at the lack of Ole Miss fans in here.
I think it depends more on who you are and your field really. Myself for example, I would much rather be number 1 in footballn pending the fact that I already have a family business lined up. So I can get my Construction Management from any half dick school and it won't hurt, I chose LSU because that was predestined from birth. Im never going to move out of Baton Rouge(because I love it) so I'm going to be dealing with LSU fans in the plants for the rest of my life. Like someone said the network can take you really far....and having tickets for all the customers
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For me i think getting Crunk and watching good football has more payoff anyway.
How prestiges a school is I think only matters to the individual.
I think it depends more on who you are and your field really. Myself for example, I would much rather be number 1 in footballn pending the fact that I already have a family business lined up. So I can get my Construction Management from any half dick school and it won't hurt, I chose LSU because that was predestined from birth. Im never going to move out of Baton Rouge(because I love it) so I'm going to be dealing with LSU fans in the plants for the rest of my life. Like someone said the network can take you really far....and having tickets for all the customers
. For me i think getting Crunk and watching good football has more payoff anyway.
How prestiges a school is I think only matters to the individual.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 3:21 pm to JustSomeGuy111
My school is a private school ranked very high academically. No football team though. So academics. I cheer for UF so for them, football. I am thinking of getting my Masters at UF though so this may change
Posted on 12/9/15 at 3:22 pm to oman
I attended an 'elite' private university for undergrad and am doing my Master's at TAMU. Trust me, I am more than realistic about the fact that TAMU would never be the best academic school in the country. My post was a response to the comments that have revealed in my opinion a fundamental cultural problem in the South. Just as a heads up, the question posed was would you rather your school be ranked #1 in football or academics not what would be more realistic. To first say to re-examine that question then immediately flip it into an attack on Texas A&M comes off as a touch asinine.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 3:24 pm to Roc Nation
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To first say to re-examine that question then immediately flip it into an attack on Texas A&M comes off as a touch asinine.
I think you are being a bit defensive. You were giving people a hard time about picking football, and I was just pointing out that for most state schools, which have a different mission than most private schools, wanting Football to be No. 1 would be the most rational response, and not worthy of the criticism you give to that response.
This post was edited on 12/9/15 at 3:28 pm
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