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re: Will Wade when asked about NOA...

Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:39 pm to
Posted by aTm boy
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Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:39 pm to
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Keeping him around was a mistake.


It was. I believe the NCAA would have taken that into consideration when their punishment is handed out. But even that aside, I believe they can find a much better coach.
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:41 pm to
Posted by SquaringCircles
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:48 pm to
With all due respect, there is no rule that requires the finder of fact in an NCAA proceeding or even a criminal trial to be an absolute moron or a rule that prevents deductive reasoning. He is on tape stating that he made such an offer to a recruit that ended up at his school. The trier of fact can deduce from that that an offer was in fact made and accepted. Personally I don’t care either way. CBB has no saints, only those who get caught and those who don’t.
Posted by aTm boy
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:50 pm to
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Anything I say won’t change your mind, And since you seem to know all about the investigation, why did they wait 3 years to send NOA?


Multiple reasons. This is a very sensitive and extensive case involving multiple institutions and people by the fbi, who themselves refused to cooperate with the NCAA because they were not after the coaches, nor schools. It takes a lot of time to sort through all of this and it is even more time consuming since they are so many involved.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:55 pm to
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And since you seem to know all about the investigation, why did they wait 3 years to send NOA?


I’m pretty sure they waited a similar time frame to send UofL their recent NOA.

The NCAA just takes their sweet arse time. Look at how long they’ve drug shite out with Oklahoma State.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:58 pm to
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With all due respect, there is no rule that requires the finder of fact in an NCAA proceeding or even a criminal trial to be an absolute moron or a rule that prevents deductive reasoning. He is on tape stating that he made such an offer to a recruit that ended up at his school. The trier of fact can deduce from that that an offer was in fact made and accepted. Personally I don’t care either way. CBB has no saints, only those who get caught and those who don’t.


I need your phone number or email address - next time I need to perfectly state something you’re my go to.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22779 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 8:05 pm to
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None of that even matters. If Wade was caught on tape actually making an offer to anyone there would be no point in trying to fight it. It would be over with. The fact is that he was not making an offer to anyone at all. Will that matter in the end? I have no clue.

I do know that he wasn't caught on tape making an offer to someone. He wasn't caught on tape cheating. He wasn't caught on tape paying players. He wasn't caught on tape doing a lot of things that people say that he was doing.


You got a NOA, so apparently it does matter.

For me personally, I have no doubt he made offers to players and think there is more than enough evidence for it.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
6775 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 9:19 pm to
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or a rule that prevents deductive reasoning. He is on tape stating that he made such an offer to a recruit that ended up at his school.


To be accurate he is on tape complaining that the “strong arse offer” he made to Smart was not enough. Which, using this deductive reasoning, would clearly imply someone at that time had made an even “stronger arse offer.” The only other team in the Smart sweepstakes was Kentucky, so what would you deduce from that?
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 9:21 pm
Posted by Twinrebs
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:05 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 10:06 pm
Posted by Shooter
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:14 pm to
I'm a diehard LSU fan I can tell he's nervous as frick!I hope they don't have any hard evidence.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17220 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:19 pm to
I just dont understand sticking your neck out for a guy who loses 10+ games a year. He should be fired for that mediocrity in and of itself.
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 10:20 pm
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41604 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:24 pm to
Wade is already taking the old, "Don't punish this team because none of them were here" routine. Once you know they have got you, this is everyone's go to move.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:26 pm to
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To be accurate he is on tape complaining that the “strong arse offer” he made to Smart was not enough.


It is a level I NCAA violation to offer extra incentives to recruits. Wade was holding the smoking gun, the cocaine and standing over the dead hooker.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62059 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:29 pm to
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It is a level I NCAA violation to offer extra incentives to recruits. Wade was holding the smoking gun, the cocaine and standing over the dead hooker.


He offered Smart a top notch education at a great university. He offered Smart a chance to start at point guard for his home town school where he would be a legend for the rest of his life. He offered Smart a chance to run an offense that would improve his NBA draft prospects and give him the best opportunity at a future in pro basketball.

That’s a strong arse offer.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
6775 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:38 pm to
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It is a level I NCAA violation to offer extra incentives to recruits


Yes it is, which means all the teams that offered extra incentives violated the rules. Whether the player ended up going there or not.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28297 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:41 pm to
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Yes it is, which means all the teams that offered extra incentives violated the rules. Whether the player ended up going there or not.




If caught, you are correct. The only way to really prove this is having a coach admitting to being a part of that. What fool would actually do that? The NCAA would have to have him on a taped recording or some stupid shite like that.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
6775 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:45 pm to
I don’t disagree. I just laugh at all this righteous indignation that Wade is some kind of super cheater or that he’s doing anything different than Pearl, Calipari, Oats, K, Self, etc. He was just stupid enough to be caught on tape.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28297 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:47 pm to
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I don’t disagree. I just laugh at all this righteous indignation that Wade is some kind of super cheater or that he’s doing anything different than Pearl, Calipari, Oats, K, Self, etc. He was just stupid enough to be caught on tape.



Here is the thing...........most HC's aren't the ones making the offers. They have people doing that for them. A "shield" so to speak.

ETA everybody in the SEC knows bama's football team is bought and paid for. Do you think saban ever brings up a number with the recruits? He has others doing that dirty work.
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 10:49 pm
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
6775 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:51 pm to
Of course. It was brazen, dumb, pick your word. But this taped conversation clearly shows you that another team (which we know was Kentucky) at some
point in Smart’s recruitment made a stronger arse offer than Wade initially. If you’re going to say of course Wade’s offer was monetarily based, then doesn’t Kentucky’s have to be as well.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28297 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:55 pm to
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Of course. It was brazen, dumb, pick your word. But this taped conversation clearly shows you that another team (which we know was Kentucky) at some
point in Smart’s recruitment made a stronger arse offer than Wade initially. If you’re going to say of course Wade’s offer was monetarily based, then doesn’t Kentucky’s have to be as well.



Common sense says yes. The NCAA has nothing about Kentucky even mentioned though.....just Wade bitching about the strong arse offer he made.

Hell, the entire Cam situation and Auburn was about a former State player, and runner for an agent, trying to get money from Miss. St.. The FBI got involved in an NCAA investigation for the first time ever over it.
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 10:58 pm
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