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re: Will A&M throw a new defense at Alabama this weekend?

Posted on 9/9/13 at 11:44 am to
Posted by CrimsonCoast
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Posted on 9/9/13 at 11:44 am to
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It doesn't matter if we can't stop their offense if they can't stop ours either.


I hate to sound like a complete homer, but I never worry about Saban/Smart's ability to design a defense to stop somebody given the amount of time they've had to do it. Yes, JFF will do his thing, but if A&M thinks they'll score more than 28, they are in for a bad day.

A&M's only hope is that Alabama is as bad on offense as they looked in Atlanta.
Posted by aggressor
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Posted on 9/9/13 at 11:48 am to
There are definitely going to be some different looks and a lot of different players. A&M has basically used the last 2 games as scrimmages on D to figure out who could earn PT. Just a huge amount of young guys and other guys that haven't played.

The biggest addition talent wise coming back are Jenkins at LB (he is our best and most experience LB) and Harris at CB (who is also a starter). We have some other rotation guys, the biggest one is Stansbury on the DL. You also have guys like Ennis, Obioha, and Hall that have played sparingly.

The biggest "Oh ****!" for A&M right now is Floyd Raven (starting Safety who missed Rice) broke his collarbone on the first series against Sam and he is done for the year. Our Safety depth sucks and it is easily our biggest weakness right now. Two of Sam's long TD's are attributed to our Safety blowing his assignment, another was our backup CB doing the same (that will be fine though). May have to shift a CB to Safety. We have some good coverage DB's but a limited amount of real headhunters. If Bama can find a way to take advantage of that and get to the 2nd level they will get some points for sure.

I do know for sure though that A&M has a LOT offensively they haven't shown. They played about as vanilla as possible the last 2 games on O and never even played at a true HUNH pace like they can. Johnny has played less than 5 full quarters and hasn't run much. Cam Clear has yet to get a catch. RSJ will be back after missing Sam.

Of course Saban is going to be loaded with surprises as well. Honestly I think he tries to beat A&M with the pass on the play action more than the run to get those Safeties to bite.
Posted by Maroon Flash
Florida
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 9/9/13 at 11:52 am to
Yes, they get some starters back.
Posted by TwelfthMan
Member since Oct 2012
694 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 11:58 am to
A&M doesn't just have a Heisman QB who can throw and run. There is also a couple of stud running backs who would start on most teams in the country and an offensive line that can make holes for them. One of the new receivers made a great one-handed catch Saturday while the defensive back was trying to hold hands with him. Not one of the big receivers, he is only 6'4" tall.
If Bama can keep A&M from scoring, they win.
Posted by aggressor
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/9/13 at 12:00 pm to
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I don't know what kinda defensive looks Snyder will throw out on Saturday to try and contain 'Bama but I feel confident saying that most of them will be seen for the first time by Saban and Co



really. you don't know but you say it will be unique? that's either supreme faith or flummery.


Well Snyder definitely fooled McCarron on the 2 pics last year. He got him to misread the D both times. Bama needs to have sustained drives to tire out the D and keep Johnny off the field. Bama has a great D but A&M is just so loaded on offense and can do so many things well. A couple of 3 and outs or a turnover can make a close game a blowout in a hurry.
Posted by ALTiger
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/9/13 at 12:01 pm to
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If Bama can keep A&M from scoring, they win.


This is what Bama does to everyone. They only way A&M wins is if the go up 21-0 again. Not likely imo.
Posted by DFWAggie09
DFW
Member since Oct 2011
1483 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 12:03 pm to
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really. you don't know but you say it will be unique? that's either supreme faith or flummery.


What about my post was confusing? I don't know what the schemes/blitzes will be but I'm fairly sure there will be new packages installed that haven't been used this season or last.

How is that confusing?
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 12:06 pm to
No.

A&M's defense is confused as hell trying to run the base defense. Our defenders look lost.

Last year? Yes. They weren't great, but they knew what they were doing. This year? Our guys don't know where they are even supposed to line up. It's amateur hour.
Posted by Aggie Dynasty
USA
Member since Jul 2013
2102 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 12:06 pm to
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A lot of talk has been given to the return of some of A&M's starters for this game, but do you think A&M will keep doing what they have been doing, just better since the starters are back, or do you think they'll dial up something special for Alabama hoping to catch the OL in the same quandary they found themselves in against the Hokies?


Yes...A&M will have all its defensive starters back.
Yes...A&M will keep doing (schemes) what they have been doing, just with ALL the starters back now.
Yes...A&M will throw all kinds of new "wrinkles" at Bama. duh
Yes...All those A&M defensive players that were NOT starters (10-15 players) that got playing time in first 2 games this season got VALUABLE playing time.
Yes...Bama is very talented and offensively was very vanilla against the hokies.
Yes...Bama will have some surprises for A&M (Manziel) duh
Yes...Saban is a very smart coach.
Yes...Sumlin is a very smart coach.

Gamesmenship.
This post was edited on 9/9/13 at 12:16 pm
Posted by CrimsonCoast
The Coast
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 9/9/13 at 12:07 pm to
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This is what Bama does to everyone. They only way A&M wins is if the go up 21-0 again. Not likely imo.


Johnny can thank LSU for his Heisman Trophy last year. LSU whipped us up and down the field and we were physically exhausted the next week, coming off the most emotional win we'd had to date.

That will not happen this year.
Posted by CrimsonCoast
The Coast
Member since Jun 2012
1409 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 12:08 pm to
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No.

A&M's defense is confused as hell trying to run the base defense. Our defenders look lost.

Last year? Yes. They weren't great, but they knew what they were doing. This year? Our guys don't know where they are even supposed to line up. It's amateur hour.


I'm not falling for that shite. Stop sandbagging and be a pompous arse like all the other Aggies.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1735 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 12:11 pm to
When was the last time Alabama was in a shootout?

There is gonna be one this weekend. A&M's O is better than bamas D by the same margin that Bamas O is better than A&M D.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 12:11 pm to
Have you watched our games? That defense looks like 7th grade when they're trying to teach kids who have never played football what to do.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1735 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 12:13 pm to
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Have you watched our games? That defense looks like 7th grade when they're trying to teach kids who have never played football what to do.


Yes, I've seen them, its not near as bad you're making it out. Minus the two big plays in the second half defense was pretty darn good. They had 12 drive for 90 yards and 4 drives for 280 or so. Complete opposite of last week where we got grinded every time. SHSU had to rely on big plays.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 12:15 pm to
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A&M has basically used the last 2 games as scrimmages on D to figure out who could earn PT.


Pshhhht! This is more spin than someone running for president puts out. Wishful thinking. Truth is, our defense just blows goats this year. Prepare yourself for a shock if you really think we've just been sandbagging and talent-scouting instead of trying our best and still looking awful, which is the truth.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 12:17 pm to
One word: Honeycutt. He's the best we can do at safety! That says it ALL.
Posted by CrimsonCoast
The Coast
Member since Jun 2012
1409 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 12:19 pm to
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Pshhhht! This is more spin than someone running for president puts out. Wishful thinking. Truth is, our defense just blows goats this year. Prepare yourself for a shock if you really think we've just been sandbagging and talent-scouting instead of trying our best and still looking awful, which is the truth.



The only legitimate way teams sandbag is to keep the play-calling conservative/vanilla. Thinking an 18 - 22 year old kid is going to take plays off to "trick" upcoming opponents is ridiculous. I hope your D is as bad as you think and I hope our Offense is way better than I think.

I may just have a heart attack before this weekend.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1735 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 12:19 pm to
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Pshhhht! This is more spin than someone running for president puts out. Wishful thinking. Truth is, our defense just blows goats this year. Prepare yourself for a shock if you really think we've just been sandbagging and talent-scouting instead of trying our best and still looking awful, which is the truth


We are basically playing with our second team defense in the first 2 games. Give up 28 points all game to SHSU and last year they gave up 28 in 1.5 quarters. We played 2 decent offenses and we dont exactly run 8 minute scoring drives on offense ourselves. Again, its not nearly as bad you think plus bamas offense thrives on the short field and turnovers. They're not a 75 yard TD drive team.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79357 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 12:21 pm to
This is one of the most civil ATM/Bama threads yet

I do think both teams have reserved their playbook for this very game however.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34342 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 12:24 pm to
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The only legitimate way teams sandbag is to keep the play-calling conservative/vanilla.


Which I think is the case. I personally believe we have held back the pass rush.
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