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Why is Saban known as such a great db coach?
Posted on 8/20/12 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 8/20/12 at 9:32 pm
Seriously, I have a ton of respect for him. He has been the LSU coach and started something no one can stop here.
With that considered, wouldn't it be fair to say that recently his linebackers have been the best nationally, as opposed to his secondary?
I assume Saban continues to control the entire defense, although he personally coaches the dbs. Why doesn't he get credit nationally as one of, if not the, best developers of linebackers? Why doesn't he get more recognition towards this?
Would anyone argue that the linebackers weren't the heart and soul of the 2009 and 2011 squads?
With that considered, wouldn't it be fair to say that recently his linebackers have been the best nationally, as opposed to his secondary?
I assume Saban continues to control the entire defense, although he personally coaches the dbs. Why doesn't he get credit nationally as one of, if not the, best developers of linebackers? Why doesn't he get more recognition towards this?
Would anyone argue that the linebackers weren't the heart and soul of the 2009 and 2011 squads?
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 9:34 pm to BigEdLSU
His DBs can't backpedal worth shite.
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 9:36 pm to BigEdLSU
Our DB's have been really good. Other than that, I don't know.
Posted on 8/20/12 at 9:37 pm to BigEdLSU
Kirby Smart coaches LBs. He's gonna be the next coach at UGA, I'd bet. As soon as the Dawgs wake-up to the fact that the "kindler, gentler" approach of Mark Richt don't win championships.
Posted on 8/20/12 at 9:38 pm to BigEdLSU
He played Corner and Safety for Kent St. Coached DBs before getting a head coaching job
Posted on 8/20/12 at 9:38 pm to BigEdLSU
Good question. He personally coaches the DB position so that is the main reason, but linebacker has been the best position on the team since he got here. Still, he has had lots of DB's taken high in the draft as well.
Posted on 8/20/12 at 9:39 pm to BigEdLSU
I think Saban is known more as an exceptional player developer more so than a DB or Linebackers coach...jmo
Posted on 8/20/12 at 9:41 pm to BigEdLSU
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Why is Saban known as such a great db coach?
cause the media guide said so.
Posted on 8/20/12 at 9:42 pm to gnarkill1529
Coaches safeties better then anyone.
Posted on 8/20/12 at 9:47 pm to dreaux
i wont disagree but i think his greatest attribute is his ability to relay what is on his mind to coaches and players...not really talking about x's and o's but he has great ppl skills and has earned a lot of respect which in turn allows the players to trust him...i think he knows x's and o's or technique as well as anybody...but if you cant get that message out the correct way to coaches and players what does it matter
Posted on 8/20/12 at 9:50 pm to five_fivesix
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Kirby Smart coaches LBs. He's gonna be the next coach at UGA, I'd bet. As soon as the Dawgs wake-up to the fact that the "kindler, gentler" approach of Mark Richt don't win championships.
KIrby Smart really ticked off a lot of people at UGA whose opinion will matter when a new coach is eventually hired. I sincerely doubt he will be the next head coach.
Posted on 8/20/12 at 9:54 pm to BigEdLSU
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Saban appears to have a knack for getting people into the NFL, including himself — he had two stints totaling six years as a pro football assistant with Houston and Cleveland. Saban also spent two seasons at the Dolphins’ head coach.
His first job in which he was solely in charge of defensive backs was at Ohio State in 1980-81, and according to pro-football-reference.com and the school’s lettermen list, four of his players played at least a season in the NFL. At Michigan State as defensive coordinator and secondary coach in 1983-87, he had six defensive backs move on to the NFL.
His 2003 national championship team at LSU had six defensive backs letter that season who eventually played in the NFL. At Alabama, he has had five play in the NFL, although pro football rookies Mark Barron (Bucs), Dre Kirkpatrick (Bengals) and DeQuan Menzie (Chiefs) are set to make it six, seven and eight this season
Pass efficiency D at Bama
2007 38th
2008 14th
2009 2nd
2010 6th
2011 1st
Posted on 8/20/12 at 9:57 pm to SoGaFan
About every DB who has started at Alabama is in the NFL and and most were high draft picks, Javier Arenas, Kareen Jackson, Marquis Johnson, Mark Barron, Dre Kirkpatrick, Dequan Menzie.I'm sure I'm forgetting one or two, but that's why he's known as the best DB coach in the country I would guess.
This post was edited on 8/20/12 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 8/20/12 at 9:59 pm to Alahunter
I would argue that at lesser schools, he was the best talent evaluator out there. At elite schools, he had the talent that would have went pro anywhere.
He has switched to the 3-4 and emphasized lbers in the recent memory.
I think cooper was a better db evaluator, while Saban was at the same time the best recruiter.
I think his lb core is > his secondary at bama
He has switched to the 3-4 and emphasized lbers in the recent memory.
I think cooper was a better db evaluator, while Saban was at the same time the best recruiter.
I think his lb core is > his secondary at bama
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 10:00 pm to SoGaFan
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KIrby Smart really ticked off a lot of people at UGA whose opinion will matter when a new coach is eventually hired. I sincerely doubt he will be the next head coach.
Y'all would be fools to not hire Kirby. UA has played the politico HC hiring bullshite. Perkins hire, Stallings retirement, Debose hire. Many dark years of football if the PTB have their heads up their arse. Blinded by vendetta.
Posted on 8/20/12 at 10:02 pm to BigEdLSU
I can't disagree about our LB core. It's nasty. Milliner was the #1 DB in his class, Belue was the #1 or 2 Juco coming out last yr. The others are development DB's, like Sylve.
He took Javy though, who was here as a return guy and RB, and made him a 2nd round draft pick. There may be others out there better, but not many.
He took Javy though, who was here as a return guy and RB, and made him a 2nd round draft pick. There may be others out there better, but not many.
Posted on 8/20/12 at 10:02 pm to five_fivesix
Well, all I will say is that not many are going to be willing to forget a few of the choicer comments and tactics coming from Smart on the recruiting trail, especially when there will be plenty of qualified candidates when it comes open.
Posted on 8/20/12 at 10:02 pm to BigEdLSU
Well I think his DB's at Bama have done pretty well, way above average at the least. But when you have a front 7 like they've put on the field for the past several years I think the DB's simply don't have the opportunity to make glaring plays and stand out. Which is always a good thing, just my opinion 
Posted on 8/20/12 at 10:10 pm to SoGaFan
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Well, all I will say is that not many are going to be willing to forget a few of the choicer comments and tactics coming from Smart on the recruiting trail, especially when there will be plenty of qualified candidates when it comes open.
Those are words of comfort. I hope we'll keep him around a few more years. Do you think it's time for a change in Athens? As an outsider looking in, it seems the amount of talent UGA has had the past 7-8 years, you guys should have more to show for it.
Posted on 8/20/12 at 10:11 pm to Rekrul
I am going to say that teaching cornerbacks is probably the hardest position to teach. Could be wrong though.
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