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re: Why has Tennessee been so un-good?
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:22 pm to Heresaucer
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:22 pm to Heresaucer
No one thought we were back after beating Utah State. Not sure what that has to do with the Florida loss though.
You have to question any coach who cannot beat Muschamp by year 2 imo.
You have to question any coach who cannot beat Muschamp by year 2 imo.
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:25 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Why has Tennessee been so un-good?
Cycles.
Alabama sucked in the not-too-distant past.
LSU was a shitshow.
Florida has hired Ron Zook and Will Muschamp in the last decade.
shite happens. Things change. People derp. People improve.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:30 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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I don't feel so bad claiming that one from the gators considering the Tigers went down and played Florida to a tie in the Swamp that year.
If they were going to vacate it, they should have awarded it to LSU.
The thing is the NCAA announced their punishment (s) ahead of time and the SEC still let us win and be presented with the trophy anyhow (which is still in Gainesville actually
).Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:31 pm to Billy Mays
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Cycles.
Alabama sucked in the not-too-distant past.
LSU was a shitshow.
Florida has hired Ron Zook and Will Muschamp in the last decade.
shite happens. Things change. People derp. People improve.
Alabama still had a couple of top 10 seasons. Muschamp somehow won 11 games with arguably the toughest schedule in the country.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:39 pm to Heresaucer
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Butch pulls in two top ranked recruiting classes, and since very few players from either class are making plays right now all he has to show for his recruiting efforts is more unrealistic expectations from the fanbase.
Wow, you have no clue what you're talking about. Almost every player making plays right now is a freshman or sophomore
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:43 pm to Korin
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Alabama still had a couple of top 10 seasons. Muschamp somehow won 11 games with arguably the toughest schedule in the country.
They also had 3/4 win seasons on three different occasions
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:55 pm to BigOrangeBri
Here comes your excuses. Every other coach seems to fill voids left by previous coaching staffs, but Butch. It's okay, you are free to vent.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 5:01 pm to AUCE05
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Here comes your excuses. Every other coach seems to fill voids left by previous coaching staffs, but Butch. It's okay, you are free to vent.
Ed Orgeron was a hella recruiter at Ole Miss too,we'll just have to see if Butch can coach...
Posted on 10/23/14 at 5:04 pm to Korin
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Remember when they were "back" after beating North Carolina State a couple of years ago?
Because every thing that is posted on the rant means the entire fan base feels that way....
Posted on 10/23/14 at 5:07 pm to volhound
Vol Nation isn't the Rant. Neither is Vol Quest or Wiw98.
Edit: Not to mention my entire freaking family being from east TN except for me.
Edit: Not to mention my entire freaking family being from east TN except for me.
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 10/23/14 at 5:08 pm to AUCE05
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Here comes your excuses. Every other coach seems to fill voids left by previous coaching staffs, but Butch. It's okay, you are free to vent.
I provided the numbers for you. If you're too dumb to read or comprehend them then that's on you.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 5:21 pm to Collins10
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Collins10
Why has Tennessee been so un-good?
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Surprised no one has mentioned Mike Hamilton.
The program could have survived Fulmer's decline.
They might have even been able to recover more quickly from Kiffin's sudden departure.
Mike Hamilton made a succession of bad decisions. I would suggest that he's the biggest reason outside of the rise other teams in the conference.
This is a phenomenal point and is the ultimate reason Tennessee is where it is in multiple sports including baseball and basketball.
Doesn't make much sense to blame Dooley and Kiffin unless you blame the guy who brought them to Knoxville.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 6:04 pm to Tuscaloosa
Rocky Tops downfall started with the midseason firing of Fulmer. Then the hiring of Kiffin, followed by Dooley.
To sum it up, a series of god awful coaching changes screwed this once great program.
To sum it up, a series of god awful coaching changes screwed this once great program.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 7:18 pm to disagreeber
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Rocky Tops downfall started with the midseason firing of Fulmer. T
Actually, I thought it wasn't bad timing at all. By pulling the trigger at the beginning of November, Tennessee jumped to the front of the line. Neither Miss. State nor Auburn had moved on Croom and Tuberville yet. Tennessee was positioned to lock up whomever they wanted before any other jobs came open. Hamilton just made a really bad choice. In spite of whatever promise he saw in Kiffin as a head coach, he should have realized that he wouldn't be a cultural fit in Knoxville, and that if Carroll left USC, Kiffin would likely bolt. Plus, in Hamilton's own words, Kiffin wouldn't have gotten the job if Monte hadn't agreed to come. That alone should have made an alarm go off in Hamilton's mind. Why the hell would you ever hire a head coach contingent on him bringing along a certain defensive coordinator? If you already admit that the guy you're hiring to be the head coach isn't good enough to stand on his own as the guy to hire, why on earth would you even consider him?
Posted on 10/23/14 at 7:31 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Why has Tennessee been so un-good? quote: Rocky Tops downfall started with the midseason firing of Fulmer. T Actually, I thought it wasn't bad timing at all. By pulling the trigger at the beginning of November, Tennessee jumped to the front of the line. Neither Miss. State nor Auburn had moved on Croom and Tuberville yet. Tennessee was positioned to lock up whomever they wanted before any other jobs came open. Hamilton just made a really bad choice. In spite of whatever promise he saw in Kiffin as a head coach, he should have realized that he wouldn't be a cultural fit in Knoxville, and that if Carroll left USC, Kiffin would likely bolt. Plus, in Hamilton's own words, Kiffin wouldn't have gotten the job if Monte hadn't agreed to come. That alone should have made an alarm go off in Hamilton's mind. Why the hell would you ever hire a head coach contingent on him bringing along a certain defensive coordinator? If you already admit that the guy you're hiring to be the head coach isn't good enough to stand on his own as the guy to hire, why on earth would you even consider him?
This. It really all falls on the joke that is Mike Hamilton
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