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Posted on 12/23/13 at 6:38 pm to Boom Angry
His name has come up for UT, A&M, Miami, Nebraska, etc and he's immediately denied any interest.
Personally, I guess I'm the one to play devil's advocate here, I don't want him to go anywhere and I'd be upset if he left.
The problem isn't Richt, it's the athletic department's unwillingness to spend/hire competitively. And that's literally all it boils down to. No coach in the SEC would have done a better job than him at UGA over the same time span besides Saban and maybe Spurrier.
Personally, I guess I'm the one to play devil's advocate here, I don't want him to go anywhere and I'd be upset if he left.
The problem isn't Richt, it's the athletic department's unwillingness to spend/hire competitively. And that's literally all it boils down to. No coach in the SEC would have done a better job than him at UGA over the same time span besides Saban and maybe Spurrier.
Posted on 12/23/13 at 7:18 pm to Boom Angry
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Explain, please.
We're pretty much playing with a hand tied behind our back in regard to financial commitment to football. We spend less on support and S&C staff, facilities, etc.
There's a reason we always lead the SEC in football profit. AD profit too I believe. We are the tightwads of the conference.
Posted on 12/23/13 at 7:19 pm to MenloDawg
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His name has come up for UT, A&M, Miami, Nebraska, etc and he's immediately denied any interest.
Personally, I guess I'm the one to play devil's advocate here, I don't want him to go anywhere and I'd be upset if he left.
The problem isn't Richt, it's the athletic department's unwillingness to spend/hire competitively. And that's literally all it boils down to. No coach in the SEC would have done a better job than him at UGA over the same time span besides Saban and maybe Spurrier.
I don't know the situation well enough to be specific as to its cause but UGA has definitely had issues for years with under performance. It was a problem long before Richt came along.
Posted on 12/23/13 at 7:23 pm to Prof
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I don't know the situation well enough to be specific as to its cause but UGA has definitely had issues for years with under performance. It was a problem long before Richt came along.
It all goes back to the Admin valuing the bottom line over winning big. We win enough to keep the bleachers consistently full. It's never occurred to them that we would make more money if we won big, apparently. They're happy with the status quo.
Until the financial commitment changes, we won't be consistently a top 5 type program. We can still put it together and win the SEC and/or NC once in a while, but it's less likely. We basically need to hit a big year where we out-talent everyone. It almost happened last year, but not quite obviously.
This post was edited on 12/23/13 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 12/23/13 at 7:32 pm to Crowknowsbest
Hell I think he'd wreck shop in TX! Unlimited resources and talent. Add to that a Big 12 schedule! Stoops would be his only challenge yearly. JMO
Posted on 12/23/13 at 7:35 pm to Prof
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A lot of our fans said the same thing about Fulmer. Be careful what you wish for.
Getting rid of Fulmer wasn't a mistake, he needed to go. Mike Hamilton's inability to hire a competent replacement is what killed us.
This post was edited on 12/23/13 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 12/23/13 at 8:06 pm to InVolNerable
I respectfully disagree. I think big Phil would have turned it around. His teams always recruited well and with talent he proved he could win. I think given the chance he would have done a lot better than the last two hires. That being said, CBJ is going to win at UT. Good hire
Posted on 12/23/13 at 8:07 pm to InVolNerable
So if UGA doesn't put forth the effort financially to take UGA over the top then why does Richt always stay and not even flirt with other schools? He love Athens that much?
Posted on 12/23/13 at 8:18 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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I think big Phil would have turned it around.
Then you're a moron. He was lazy and complacent at the end. He was going nowhere fast and he was fine with it because he thought he was untouchable.
Posted on 12/23/13 at 8:39 pm to Boom Angry
Upgrades to the UGA job don't come along often. There are very few jobs that are upgrades from the UGA/Auburn/LSU tier of schools. And I'm not sure they'd be interested in Richt.
That said, despite the idea that Richt wouldn't ever leave UGA, I bet he'd listen for 5-7 mil, especially considering he's a bad year away from feeling real heat at UGA.
That said, despite the idea that Richt wouldn't ever leave UGA, I bet he'd listen for 5-7 mil, especially considering he's a bad year away from feeling real heat at UGA.
Posted on 12/23/13 at 8:44 pm to SoGaFan
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I love how UGA fans are so quick to throw him under the bus with no mention of how much UGA handicaps itself in so many ways relative to the SEC and other large programs around the south.
yeah and most of these posters calling for his head were the same ones saying how unbelievably cheap we were. I mean hell, we make a run at a MNC every 5 years. Any other conference and that would be semi-impressive.
All this w/o full monetary support from the AD. I'd say he's done a great job.
Posted on 12/23/13 at 8:50 pm to Boom Angry
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So if UGA doesn't put forth the effort financially to take UGA over the top then why does Richt always stay and not even flirt with other schools? He love Athens that much?
We have been discussing this today on the Georgia Sports Board. I think the limited commitment has frustrated Richt; for instance he has been asking for a full, on campus indoor practice facility for many years and what he got instead was this mini facility that is a joke and is in the only location where a full size facility could have been located. While his salary is competitive in the 3 million range most of his staff salaries aren't as competitive and we don't even have the allowed number assistants. We also have self imposed recruiting constraints that pretty much prevents us from maintaining a full roster by not oversigning/allowing for typical attrition. There was some data on this board this week that basically showed that UGA spends less per player than most of our competition in the SEC.
Having said this, to answer your question, I think Richt has reconciled himself to the situation and recognizing the constraints takes pressure off him to win championships. Our admins seem pretty happy with 10 win seasons most years as long the money keeps rolling in. They aren't really in a position to complain much about Richt considering his very positive public relations image along with a consistently good win/loss record including bowl games. They of course would love for Richt to win a NC overcoming the constraints but they aren't willing to commit enough resources to make it happen.
Bottom line: our university is focused on building it's academic standing and athletics is secondary at best.
This post was edited on 12/23/13 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 12/23/13 at 8:58 pm to Boom Angry
Who is a better head coach? Muschamp or Richt? I'd take Richt personally.
Posted on 12/23/13 at 9:02 pm to Camp Randall
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Who is a better head coach? Muschamp or Richt? I'd take Richt personally.
Obviously. Richt has been at UGA for 13 years and has a consistent winning season record and wins most of his bowl games. He's won the SECC twice. Muschamp just completed what? his 3rd season at Florida. Will is a solid defensive coach but he needs a really good OC and better recruiting.
Posted on 12/23/13 at 9:37 pm to davesdawgs
UGA fan should appreciate Richt, he's one of the best coaches in the country.
I don't understand how he gets so much flack for going to about 5 SEC championship games and Spurrier has been to one at USC and he's treated like a deity.
I don't understand how he gets so much flack for going to about 5 SEC championship games and Spurrier has been to one at USC and he's treated like a deity.
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:48 pm to Camp Randall
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Who is a better head coach? Muschamp or Richt? I'd take Richt personally.
I'd assume if a person was smart enough to actually read this question then the answer would always be Richt.
Posted on 12/23/13 at 11:01 pm to Boom Angry
Why would you hire a guy who hired and keeps Todd Grantham around?
Recruiting is also an issue, player development is also a problem, passive aggressive behavior by the coach on the field is a problem, off the field arrests are a problem and so on.
But I don't necessarily blame Richt for his recruiting issues, I just think some players don't want anything to do with Bulldawg Nation which goes from Newnan up to Commerce and down to Vidalia and back to Newnan.
Recruiting is also an issue, player development is also a problem, passive aggressive behavior by the coach on the field is a problem, off the field arrests are a problem and so on.
But I don't necessarily blame Richt for his recruiting issues, I just think some players don't want anything to do with Bulldawg Nation which goes from Newnan up to Commerce and down to Vidalia and back to Newnan.
Posted on 12/23/13 at 11:05 pm to Othello
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UGA fan should appreciate Richt, he's one of the best coaches in the country.
I don't understand how he gets so much flack for going to about 5 SEC championship games and Spurrier has been to one at USC and he's treated like a deity.
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Posted on 12/23/13 at 11:06 pm to Camp Randall
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Who is a better head coach? Muschamp or Richt? I'd take Richt personally.
I would too. Muschamp sucks. I don't know why Florida didn't see that coming.
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