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re: Why does University of Alabama have so many out of state students?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 5:44 pm to Dawgnational
Posted on 6/20/14 at 5:44 pm to Dawgnational
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Why does University of Alabama have so many out of state students?
So there will be a diverse crop of trim to gaze upon.
Any other questions I can help you with?
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 5:44 pm to Crimson G
You do realize there are College-based recruitment scholarships that are intended for students to pursue a specific major?
So the College of A&S will offer scholarships to kids with higher than average ACT English scores.
So the College of A&S will offer scholarships to kids with higher than average ACT English scores.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 5:44 pm to RTR America
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Actually that is right around the time majority of the new residence halls started opening, the new ridiculous fraternity houses along univeristy blvd. started getting built, Shelby Hall which is one of the nicest science buildings in the nation opened a few years before that, and the football team just started their path of destruction.
Which is attributable to the football team "bump" as I noted. Baylor experienced a rise in applicants when their football team suddenly turned around. Kansas did the same during the Orange Bowl (?) run. That kind of thing doesn't last for years and years no matter how long the football success lasts. I don't think there is anything wrong with what they're doing - they're looking for the best and the brightest. But they're not getting them merely because the best and the brightest want to visit BDS 6, 7 or 8 times a fall or b/c they want to be in "x" sorority/fraternity at Bama.
And nobody applies to a school primarily because of campus beauty. If they did, then I don't know them and they shouldn't have been admitted.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 5:47 pm to Crimson G
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UA started aggressively expanding and recruiting out of state under president Witt in 2004-- before Nick Saban.
probably a good business decision. I believe LSU is going to start recruiting out of state students more in the future although not at a 50 in state 50 out of state ratio
Posted on 6/20/14 at 5:48 pm to Crimson G
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UA started aggressively expanding and recruiting out of state under president Witt in 2004-- before Nick Saban.
This is exactly my point. The football team may have given the administrative plan a slight bump and sped the process up in the 1-2 years where it was suddenly exciting again, but the point is that there is a more tangible factor responsible for the sustained numbers.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 5:49 pm to Golfer
Oh, so it was a College of Arts and Sciences scholly now, not a departmental one? I went to UA and had a student job in the bureaucracy. I know how scholarships work, and a kid with a 24 ACT did not get "practically a full ride" through the English department (as was claimed). The chances that he got it through A&S are also ridiculously small. I don't know what you're trying to prove.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 5:50 pm to MenloDawg
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Which is attributable to the football team "bump" as I noted. Baylor experienced a rise in applicants when their football team suddenly turned around. Kansas did the same during the Orange Bowl (?) run. That kind of thing doesn't last for years and years no matter how long the football success lasts.
You are listing one year deals. Since 08 we've been the best team in all of college sports.
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But they're not getting them merely because the best and the brightest want to visit BDS 6, 7 or 8 times a fall or b/c they want to be in "x" sorority/fraternity at Bama.
And nobody applies to a school primarily because of campus beauty
These are all factors to why people decide to go to a certain school. I know I fell in love with the campus when I came down for a basketball tournament between my freshman and sophomore years of high school. It happens.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 5:50 pm to tiger perry
There's been a good bit of backlash about the shifting in state versus out of state demographics.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 5:51 pm to RTR America
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RTR America
If you want to believe Alabama is at a 50/50 ratio because of the football team, campus beauty and greek life, then I'm not going to argue with you man. That's fine.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 5:52 pm to Crimson G
I don't know the other poster. I'm simply stating that there are other avenues to receive these scholarships, that's all.
Alabama in recent years has realized there isn't a need to recruit within the state, that takes care of itself. So they have pushed their recruiters to other locations and become very generous with their admissions process. This has been made very clear to my by more than one HS Senior Advisor not in Alabama.
Alabama in recent years has realized there isn't a need to recruit within the state, that takes care of itself. So they have pushed their recruiters to other locations and become very generous with their admissions process. This has been made very clear to my by more than one HS Senior Advisor not in Alabama.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 5:53 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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I mean in Texas the students can go to A&M or UT-Austin.
Not if you don't get accepted
The "Top 10%" auto acceptance rule in Texas fills available slots pretty fast. Those that don't get accepted have to go out of state......
Posted on 6/20/14 at 5:53 pm to MenloDawg
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If you want to believe Alabama is at a 50/50 ratio because of the football team, campus beauty and greek life, then I'm not going to argue with you man. That's fine.
Jesus man. I'm not saying that it is. I am saying those things factor into the decision making process of a prospective student.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 6/20/14 at 5:54 pm to Crimson G
There is so much bs in this thread. Alabama is just aggressively recruiting, has a great football team and Greek life, is rapidly expanding their already beautiful campus. They aren't throwing scholarship money at anyone. 
at all you dipshites that think individual departments are giving out huge scholarships. Only great students are getting free tuition and the like. The length some of you go to disprove the academic and general success of alabama is truly pathetic.
And for all you idiots that say alabama has just started letting anyone in, their average entering class act score has risen each year. Every year I was at Bama was record attendance, record Gpa, and record act average. Alabama has just been kicking arse lately. People credit Sabah a lot, but Dr. Witt has got to be one of the best unjversity presidents/chancellors to ever hold the title. Guy deserves his own statue.
at all you dipshites that think individual departments are giving out huge scholarships. Only great students are getting free tuition and the like. The length some of you go to disprove the academic and general success of alabama is truly pathetic. And for all you idiots that say alabama has just started letting anyone in, their average entering class act score has risen each year. Every year I was at Bama was record attendance, record Gpa, and record act average. Alabama has just been kicking arse lately. People credit Sabah a lot, but Dr. Witt has got to be one of the best unjversity presidents/chancellors to ever hold the title. Guy deserves his own statue.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 6/20/14 at 5:57 pm to rtr2013
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They aren't throwing scholarship money at anyone.
Like I said, I'm not positive about undergrad, but I know for a fact this isn't the case in grad school. They are throwing scholarship money at people and it's gobs of it. And kudos to them for being financially prepared enough to do that.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 5:58 pm to rtr2013
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The length some of you go to disprove the academic and general success of alabama is truly pathetic.
I'm not trying to disprove anything. They are doing a good job. It's simply very strategic and intentional to get to that 50/50 number. Especially with the rising cost of in-state in FL and the 10% rule in TX for UT and TAMU.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 6/20/14 at 5:59 pm to Dawgnational
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I mean in Texas the students can go to A&M or UT-Austin..
You're talking about a small number of students.
The rest go to: Baylor, Texas Tech, University of Houston, Stephen F Austin, North Texas, Sam Houston, Texas State, SMU, TCU, etc.
But those kiddos who don't have the grades to attend the big two (A&M and UTex), but want to experience a larger university setting (e.g., not Trinity University in San Antonio) are able to get into Bama, Ole Miss, LSU, Auburn, etc.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 6:03 pm to MenloDawg
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Like I said, I'm not positive about undergrad
Op posted a link about undergrad. This entire discussion has been based on undergrad.
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but I know for a fact this isn't the case in grad school. They are throwing scholarship money at people and it's gobs of it.
Based on?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 6:03 pm to RTR America
Me applying to Bama for law school, the scholarship offer I received and the conversation I had with the Dean in his office when I visited.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 6/20/14 at 6:05 pm to MenloDawg
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Me applying to Bama for law school, the scholarship offer I received and the conversation I had with the Dean in his office when I visited.
Well I'm sorry then. There has just been so much unsubstantiated bullshite throughout this thread.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 6:06 pm to MenloDawg
Aren't their scholarships for law school only for the first year and then you have to be top ~10% or something to maintain it? Alabamas law school doesn't have to throw money to get good students. It's one of the best law schools in the country, and is the best public law school in the southeast.
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