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re: Why does Paul Bryant Jr. fear UAB so much?

Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:49 am to
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30598 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:49 am to
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A lot of UA Athletic Money comes from UAB graduates who are big supporters of the Mothership. The fear is if UAB every established their own program, the money would move toward Birmingham.
So we've found another subject that you know absolutely nothing about.
Posted by LSUtah
Salt Lake City
Member since Feb 2011
872 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:49 am to
Why not just drop the program to FCS...? That largely addresses the $17M deficit with a reduction in scholarships and travel costs.

There are plenty of SEC and ACC schools that will still schedule FSC opponents for a payday. I'm not a particular fan of Title IX, but obviously there are a some women's athletic programs that will shut down as a result of this decison as well.

There is more going on here...
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13363 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:55 am to
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The UAB president is ending the program
The BOT told UAB what to do. UAB can't tell the BOT no. It's no different than a higher up telling a lower manager to fire someone and the lower one doing it. It doesn't make it the lower one's decision. If UAB did ask the BOT to end it's program it's because they are tired of the BOT screwing them.

Bama has blocked them from hiring a good coach (Jimbo) and blocked then from getting a stadium even if someone else built it. None of those are things you do if you trying to help a program win. To try and claim Bama isn't trying to hold UAB back is stupid. It's just an excuse Bama fans came up with instead of admitting their BOT are sleazy.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 11:07 am
Posted by Bama54
Neverland
Member since Nov 2011
5021 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:58 am to
Why do corn dogs care>
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:00 am to
Somebody tell me AUM's record in football. Or LSU - Shreveport 's. Bama gave UAB life. The football program is not profitable. shite happens.
Posted by BamaAcadien
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
46 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:02 am to
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Don't let anyone fool you. LSU runs things behind the scenes in LA just like Bama does.


This. It's laughable that these LSU fans act as if the state of Louisiana has ONE real football team by pure coincidence. GTFO of here.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:07 am to
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blocked then from getting a stadium even if someone else built it


Link?
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:08 am to
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quote:
A lot of UA Athletic Money comes from UAB graduates who are big supporters of the Mothership. The fear is if UAB every established their own program, the money would move toward Birmingham.
So we've found another subject that you know absolutely nothing about.



They have done a study on UAB Grads, most of which were UA Football supporters. With UAB having an enrollment of 18K+, you do the math. UA realizes they can not depend on the sidewalk fans
forever, they must maintain a large alumni base to keep ahead of other programs.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:10 am to
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They have done a study on UAB Grads, most of which were UA Football supporters. With UAB having an enrollment of 18K+, you do the math. UA realizes they can not depend on the sidewalk fans forever, they must maintain a large alumni base to keep ahead of other programs.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:16 am to
Exactly the response you would expect from the bammers. They want to tell you it is all about fiscal responsibility. What the BOT and the bammer fans don't mention is spending $30M on a baseball program that loses money. This is all about future revenue for the Mothership, and a thorn in the side of Bear Jr.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:17 am to
We have been raising money for a new baseball stadium for quite a while. UAB should try it for once.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:18 am to
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Somebody tell me AUM's record in football. Or LSU - Shreveport 's. Bama gave UAB life. The football program is not profitable. shite happens.



AUM has an enrollment of 5K, UAB has 18K+. Good argument.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:21 am to
Huntingdon College has an enrollment of 1100 students. Guess what they also have? Why won't Auburn allow AUM to have a football program?
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13363 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:21 am to
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Link?


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LINK

UAB is part of The University of Alabama System, as is UAH. UAB sports have grown a good bit in the last 40 years. Unfortunately, the school’s athletics programs face resistance from members of the UA System Board of Trustees that are not associated with UAB and do not have UAB’s best interest at heart. They tend to care about The University of Alabama a good bit more than they do the other schools.

This was seen back in 2006 when UAB wanted to hire Jimbo Fischer. His pay would have come from alumni and would not have cost the system much at all. The board claimed that he would have been overpaid. Keep in mind that this same board paid Nick Saban a record-setting contract the next year. Now, I don’t think UAB would have won a national championship with Jimbo. But I do think they would have done a little better than 23-61.

Later, these board members stopped UAB from creating a stadium on campus to replace the old Legion Field that has fallen into disrepair. Again, this stadium would not have cost the University system anything, but they still will not allow it. The new stadium would also have moved UAB football to a much nicer area in the city. They still said no.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 11:48 am
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32652 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:23 am to
For real doe, why do Aubies care so much about UAB football? Is it just an easy thing to use to talk trash to Bama?
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30598 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:26 am to
Who the hell do you think it would have cost?...this time, be sure of your answer.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:26 am to
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AUM has an enrollment of 5K, UAB has 18K+. Good argument.



Why isn't AU funding a NAIA football program at AUM?
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:27 am to
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Again, this stadium would not have cost the University system anything, but they still will not allow it.


Where is this plan? I can't find a copy of it. Sorry if a letter to the editor is not what I am looking for
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 11:29 am
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:35 am to
Alabama fans need a lesson on higher education funding. I've seen some posters hint that UA should be able to use the money going to UAB football. That's not how governmental appropriations work.

The University of Alabama does not "lose money" because the University of Alabama System funds UAB's football program. Universities receive funds from taxpayers via the Federal and state governments. If UAB's football program was dissolved, the allocated funds for the program would not go back into the pot for the UA System to spend, the funds simply wouldn't be allocated in the future. It would not increase the funds going into UA.

If people want to make a logical argument for shutting down the program, they should talk about saving taxpayers' hard earned dollar over funding a football program that operates at an annual $17.5MM loss.

...Just so we can get that out of the way.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13363 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:37 am to
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For real doe, why do Aubies care so much about UAB football? Is it just an easy thing to use to talk trash to Bama?
People can't care about others getting screwed at the expense of a bunch of crooks? Maybe because all your fans keep claiming the same old crap that all these sleazy things and trashy stuff your school and fans do is normal or lies when it's not.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 11:45 am
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