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re: Why does Arkansas have such an incredible history of successful coaches?
Posted on 8/18/15 at 9:22 am to Crimson Legend
Posted on 8/18/15 at 9:22 am to Crimson Legend
bill clinton was a much better prez then either bush
This post was edited on 8/18/15 at 9:24 am
Posted on 8/18/15 at 9:24 am to Jon Ham
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People in Arkansas are bred to work hard, play outside, and socialize with a diverse group of people. We also tend to be pretty smart for redneck folk.
all true. it's sad we get lumped with the other southern stupids.
Posted on 8/18/15 at 9:29 am to piggilicious
Funny how everyone forgets Houston Nutt.. haha
Charlie Strong is from Arkansas as well, verdict is still out on him being a big time coach though. He did great at Louisville yet having a tough time at Texas so far.
Charlie Strong is from Arkansas as well, verdict is still out on him being a big time coach though. He did great at Louisville yet having a tough time at Texas so far.
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 9:39 am to Hogattack
Need to pull up a picture of the Arkansas 64 National Championship team.
It had in the pic, Joe Gibbs, Johnny Majors, Frank Broyles, Barry Switzer, Jimmy Johnson, Jerry Jones, Kenny Hatfield, and another coach that went on to coach at Ok State that I cannot remember his name off hand. . Im sure im missing someone. Wilson Mathews was in it but no one knows him outside of Arkansas. But he was Broyles main man back then.
It had in the pic, Joe Gibbs, Johnny Majors, Frank Broyles, Barry Switzer, Jimmy Johnson, Jerry Jones, Kenny Hatfield, and another coach that went on to coach at Ok State that I cannot remember his name off hand. . Im sure im missing someone. Wilson Mathews was in it but no one knows him outside of Arkansas. But he was Broyles main man back then.
Posted on 8/18/15 at 10:21 am to Tornado Alley
I knew Ohio was up there as well, but their combination of population, money, and football culture makes them a likely candidate for raising coaches.
Tuberville is also good enough to include on the list, IMO.
Tuberville is also good enough to include on the list, IMO.
Posted on 8/18/15 at 10:25 am to Crimson Legend
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Let's not go overboard - you also gave us the Clintons and Wal-mart.
Nothing wrong with Walmart and you know you'd like to go on a 3 day bender with Billy.
And don't forget John Daly. He's a bad mofo and a true son of Arkansas.
Posted on 8/18/15 at 10:34 am to Tornado Alley
Now list the number of championships. Arky coaches have produced. It is impressive, actually.
Posted on 8/18/15 at 10:38 am to WorkinDawg
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you know you'd like to go on a 3 day bender with Billy.
Bill is awesome and I'd LOVE to go out on the town with him. I voted for him twice. I just don't care for his wife - she has none of the qualities that I like about Bill, and most of the qualities that I don't like.
But back to the thread...good point above about listing the championships, that is what made me think of it.
Posted on 8/18/15 at 10:39 am to Crimson Legend
Well people in Arkansas are simply smarter, more resourceful, more creative, and raised with a certain dedication.
And we have nothing else to do but become obsessive over things like church and football.
And we have nothing else to do but become obsessive over things like church and football.
Posted on 8/18/15 at 10:46 am to Crimson Legend
Sadly the 1964 champ year would not go to the state of AR but instead to GA where I believe Broyles was from
Posted on 8/18/15 at 10:49 am to I Ham That I Ham
glad to see you're still kicking.
Posted on 8/18/15 at 10:52 am to piggilicious
Yeah I was unsure at first. Just a thread disappearance
Posted on 8/18/15 at 10:54 am to CtotheVrzrbck
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And we have nothing else to do but become obsessive over things like church and football.
So basically y'all are just like the state of Oklahoma.
Posted on 8/18/15 at 11:22 am to Crimson Legend
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I am wondering if there is some geographical/social influence, or if this is just the result of a small sample size lacking statistical significance resulting in an unrepresentative distribution.
I will take a shot at it, but this is just a guess on my part I will grant you. I think a large reason Arkansas has produced as many coaches as we have is that until relatively recently our education system was a wee bit different then what you will find in most states.
I'm not claiming intellectual superiority mind you. No, what I'm talking about is that the state used to have more high schools then you can shake a stick at. Hell, we still have a horde of Universities in the state despite our small population.
You had large high schools where a hundred kids might be on the football team all the way down to hole in the wall schools where 17 kids went out for football. If that many.
So many different schools with such wildly varying levels of talent meant that as a coach you had to be able to adapt and change your game plan from year to year. For example one coach, whose name escapes me at the moment, won a couple of state titles running the antiquated double eagle formation. Until he got a good passer one year and went full on spread formation Air Raid attack.
What works at a large school like Little Rock Central wouldn't work for the Winslow Fighting Squirrels. So you had a lot of coaches trying the latest (and sometimes oldest) schemes to try and level the playing field. As a result you had very innovative coaches coming up through the ranks and future coaches learning the business in this sort of football laboratory.
You had to adapt to what you saw from week to week because it was going to change. Heck the one time I saw a Gus Malzahn offense shut down in high school was when the other team threw out the three days older then dirt 6-3-2 defense against him.
Now that we have combined a lot of the smaller high schools in the state we will probably see the reckless innovation start to slow down since there will be fewer coaches coming up.
Posted on 8/18/15 at 11:23 am to LSU FREAK
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You can either coach football or sell rocks on the side of the road, not much else to do.
My family literally did this. We've got a good bit of acreage that is both cleared for crops and pasture and hilly woodland with creeks and streams running through the property.
My dad would gather up river rocks and the field rocks that have been piled for centuries and developers and home builders would come buy them by the truck load.
There's so many damn rocks in these hills. It was hell for punishment in the summer.
Posted on 8/18/15 at 11:31 am to LSU FREAK
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You can either coach football or sell rocks on the side of the road, not much else to do.
The pretty, shiny ones can be worth quite a bit...
Posted on 8/18/15 at 11:32 am to Arksulli
Other states also have big and small schools. Not sure I buy this reasoning
Posted on 8/18/15 at 11:33 am to Crimson Legend
Better question is why can't they seem to keep them. Every coach worth a shite hightails it out as soon as possible.
Posted on 8/18/15 at 11:34 am to I Ham That I Ham
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Other states also have big and small schools. Not sure I buy this reasoning
Not that other schools didn't have small schools, its that for a while we had a ton of them.
Posted on 8/18/15 at 11:41 am to Arksulli
Maybe you give the high school coaches longer to develop. In Mississippi and Alabama, when the football coach has his second losing season we demote him to Principal.
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