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re: Why do bama players fail in the NFL?

Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by Demamp Camp
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:17 pm to
7 above average or pro bowl level NFL players from the draft classes between 2010 and 2014.

Yea, what a bunch of busts.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:21 pm to
I don't subscribe to PFF's calculations. I've seen many of their rankings that are just blatantly wrong.
Posted by Demamp Camp
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:23 pm to
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I don't subscribe to PFF's calculations. I've seen many of their rankings that are just blatantly wrong.




Agree, they aren't great at taking into account specialty guys either, but it still gives an overall idea and shows that Alabama had a million guys who start or play a lot and a bunch more who are above average.
Posted by pantherz
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:24 pm to
So at least 10 first round draft picks that are average or below. I am pretty sure James Caroenter would have been in that group last year. Bust U
Posted by Demamp Camp
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:26 pm to
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I am pretty sure James Caroenter would have been in that group last year.


And CJ Mosely would have been the opposite.

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So at least 10 first round draft picks that are average or below.


You realize that the rate of 1st round picks becoming pro bowlers is not super high, right? That is the norm for everyone, not just "Alabama".

But enjoy your fantasy. Dee Ford and Corey Lemonier were even below Courtney Upshaw on the edge rushing list. Yeesh.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:26 pm to
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So at least 10 first round draft picks that are average or below. I am pretty sure James Caroenter would have been in that group last year. Bust U


Being an "average starter" in the motherfricking National Football League doesn't make you a bust, you window licking retard.
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:28 pm to
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22 posts

I bet everyone of them are troll posts as well.
Posted by Demamp Camp
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:30 pm to
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Being an "average starter" in the motherfricking National Football League doesn't make you a bust, you window licking retard.


2015 "Average Starters"
Teddy Bridgewater (77.4)
Phillip Rivers (77.0)
Ryan Tannehill (73.2)
LeSean McCoy (78.9)
Demaryius Thomas (78.4)
Eric Weddle (77.8)
Eric Reid (75.9)
Rey Maualuga (77.9)

Buncha busts
This post was edited on 1/22/16 at 12:31 pm
Posted by pantherz
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:31 pm to
Only a bammer fricktard like you think teams draft guys in the first round with the hopes of them being average.
Posted by americanrealism
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:31 pm to
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So at least 10 first round draft picks that are average or below. I am pretty sure James Caroenter would have been in that group last year. Bust U


Meanwhile Auburn has a whopping four first round picks going back to 2008.
Posted by Demamp Camp
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:32 pm to
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hopes of them being average.


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Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:33 pm to
Well half of second round picks turn out unsuccessful. If you get a multiple year starter out of a first rounder is generally good
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:34 pm to
Ma that 23.
Posted by Demamp Camp
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:35 pm to
Auburn 1st round picks since 2012 graded
2014 #2 pick : Greg Robinson, tackle, #77 (30.3) - below replacement (5th worst starting tackle in the NFL per PFF)

2014 #23 pick : Dee Ford, edge rush, #104 (46.3) - below replacement (7th worst edge rusher in the NFL per PFF)



Who would say has the higher bust rate the last few years? I'd say 100% would be hard to top.
This post was edited on 1/22/16 at 12:37 pm
Posted by Herman Frisco
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:36 pm to
Are you 24s gay lover? Or do you suck any dick you can get your lips around?
If you are going to be a pos troll go back to ITAT and practice on those fine upstanding citizens.Then come back when you have game.


Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:36 pm to
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Only a bammer fricktard like you think teams draft guys in the first round with the hopes of them being average.


What? You understand that having a draft pick turn into a multi-year successful starter is a win, right? Picking up average starters is exactly what they're looking to do.

You understand that an "average starter" is a badass compared to most of the rest of the players in the NFL, right?
Posted by Demamp Camp
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:37 pm to
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You understand that an "average starter" is a badass compared to all of the first round picks from Auburn the last 3 years, right?


Fixed it
Posted by pantherz
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:42 pm to
Look at the Carolina Panthers first ground picks in the last 5 years to see what a successful first round draft pick looks like:

2011- Cam Neeton
2012- Luke Kuechly
2013- Star L
2014- Kelvin Benjamin
2015- Shaq Thompson

Cam, Kuechly, and Kelvin Benjamin are basically pro bowl level players. Star L is just below that. Shaq Thompson didn't get s ton of playing time as a rookie because the Panthers are already in pretty good shape at linebacker. However, he looked pretty good when he did play and looks to be a good pick for the future.

Those players are light years better than most of bammers first round picks
This post was edited on 1/22/16 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Demamp Camp
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:46 pm to
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Look at the Carolina Panthers first ground picks in the last 5 years to see what a successful first round draft pick looks like:


Are you arguing with another NFL fan about teams drafts what? WTF is this?

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Those players are light years better than most of bammers first round picks


Amari > Benjamin
Mosly's rookie year > Shaq Thompson
Dareus > Star L

Kuechly and Newton are 2 of the 5 best players in the league, so sure.

Anything else?

Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:47 pm to
Compare Amari to Benjamin
Dareus to Star L
Mosely to Shaq Thompson

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