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re: Why do Bama fans have the mentality that they should be in the NC every year
Posted on 12/2/13 at 12:23 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Posted on 12/2/13 at 12:23 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Because we're winners and winners should win?
False. Haven't gone undefeated in November when it matters the most in the last four years. Proving that you can go undefeated is the only way you can feel that way. In the BCS era, Auburn has done that more frequently than you.
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Posted on 12/2/13 at 12:25 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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So? Bama has won so much because of those expectations. Most people will only ever be as good as you expect them to. If you start going around saying it is fine to win 10 or 11 games then there isn't enough drive to win the title every year.
So you're saying fan expectations matter and have and affect on the outcome? So Auburn must have higher expectations than Alabama because they have had more undefeated seasons in the BCS era than the Crimson Tide? Are you saying The Auburn Family is better than the gumps? I guess I can buy that.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 12:26 pm to TeLeFaWx
Didn't have to back door anything. Using Rickydaddys material is so becoming I might add. Do you realize how many losses Bama has in four years? Who has a better record than that? 
Posted on 12/2/13 at 12:30 pm to Revelator
Very simply...we should be in it every year unless we shouldn't be in it. In 2010 we shouldn't have been in it, nor should we have been in 2008. But absolutely, we want to be in the discussion every year.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 12:31 pm to TeLeFaWx
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So you're saying fan expectations matter and have and affect on the outcome? So Auburn must have higher expectations than Alabama because they have had more undefeated seasons in the BCS era than the Crimson Tide? Are you saying The Auburn Family is better than the gumps? I guess I can buy that.
Clearly.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 12:43 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Clearly.
Well that's what is sounds like. If you are saying fan expectations matter and affect the outcome, wouldn't the team that has more undefeated seasons, have greater and more valid expectations? Where does that logic break down?
Posted on 12/2/13 at 12:53 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Because we're winners and winners should win?
That's fine when they win but You didn't answer my question. I am talking about the mentality that the world is not spinning correctly unless Bama is not being held back from playing in the NCG, as if it is theirs to play by default and all others must earn the right to play them. There are two types of Bama fans, rational and arrogant/delusional/self righteous. Your comment would appear to put you in the latter group.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 12:56 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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The SEC Title means nothing unless you win the National Title too
I'm sure Florida would be happy to take that 1999 SEC title from you.
If a conference title means nothing to you guys, why don't you make the rest of us happy by leaving the conference and becoming an independent?
And I would argue the opposite: a national title means nothing if you can't win your own conference/division. I like it when LSU wins them all and LEAVES NO DOUBT!
This post was edited on 12/2/13 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 12/2/13 at 1:05 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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The SEC Title means nothing.
Fixed it for you. Next time, say what you mean.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 1:09 pm to mizzou18
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hey didnt even win their DIVISIO
Auburn and Alabama each have one SEC loss. The record will show them as division co-champs. AU will have an asterisk, which means they represented the West in the SECCG as they won the head to head. One year there was a 3 way tie and there have been several 2 way ties.
You are now in the SEC. Learn the rules!
Posted on 12/2/13 at 2:24 pm to Bama54
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Auburn and Alabama each have one SEC loss. The record will show them as division co-champs.
And I doubt that they will have co-champs on their banner. Realistically, despite the letter of the rules, there is one SECW champ this year and it isn't Bama.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 2:27 pm to sardog12
No, we don't post Co-champs.
We also don't give out 2nd place rings.
We also don't give out 2nd place rings.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 2:29 pm to Bama54
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No, we don't post Co-champs.
You don't know much about your history, do you?
Posted on 12/2/13 at 2:31 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Haven't gone undefeated in November when it matters the most in the last four years.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 10:22 pm to Bama54
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We also don't give out 2nd place rings.
Maybe not, but I expect that they will give out conference champion rings that weren't earned, though.
This post was edited on 12/2/13 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 12/2/13 at 10:29 pm to sardog12
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This may be true but this doesn't address why Bama fans are so arrogant that many of them believe that it is their birthright to be in the NCG every year, which is the point of the OP.
Perhaps this mentality explains why Alabama has far more national titles, conference titles, 10-win seasons, bowl wins, and bowl appearances then any other team in the conference?
Posted on 12/2/13 at 10:32 pm to TeLeFaWx
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So you're saying fan expectations matter and have and affect on the outcome?
Yeah. They do. It was fan expectations that got Curry fired after a 10-2 season in 1989. It was fan expectations that got Shula fired when every single ESPN and national sports commentator were saying we should give him another year. It was fan expectations that drove Mal Moore to make Nick Saban the highest paid coach in the land to come to Tuscaloosa. It's not good enough to just beat your rival and go to a bowl game every year. We want more. We want championships.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 10:34 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
When you own the league headquarters, the scheduling, and the refs, you have a right to expect to win it all.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 10:35 pm to Revelator
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I've noticed the same entitlement attitude to permeate the fanbase.
To be fair to Bama fans, if the team or coach Saban decided they liked penis in their mouths, there'd be a lot of cock suckers in the state of Alabama.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 10:36 pm to Revelator
When you have a number one to top five recruiting class every year, the almost unanimously proclaimed best coach in the country, some of the best facilities in the country, in the best conference in the country, and the most historical success of any program in history, then you should in theory be most likely to win the national championship.
Obviously in reality there are plenty of other programs that grade highly in all these areas and they are also a legit threat to win every year, but on paper not as big of a threat as Alabama.
So, as ridiculous as it may be, the expectation gets set there every year we should be in the title game.
Some people just cannot except that sometimes other contenders outperform Alabama in one game here or there to prevent that, even though "on paper" Alabama is still "the best."
Its sports. Crap happens. Its a game played by 18-23 year olds and there are other great programs. Some people just can't see.
We have had a damn fine season. We have had damn fine seasons every year since 2008; however, some just can't accept it.
Obviously in reality there are plenty of other programs that grade highly in all these areas and they are also a legit threat to win every year, but on paper not as big of a threat as Alabama.
So, as ridiculous as it may be, the expectation gets set there every year we should be in the title game.
Some people just cannot except that sometimes other contenders outperform Alabama in one game here or there to prevent that, even though "on paper" Alabama is still "the best."
Its sports. Crap happens. Its a game played by 18-23 year olds and there are other great programs. Some people just can't see.
We have had a damn fine season. We have had damn fine seasons every year since 2008; however, some just can't accept it.
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