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Why did S.Car hire Muschamp?

Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:14 pm
Posted by Category5hurricane
Member since Feb 2016
230 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:14 pm
Muschamp took over for Meyer, who had won two national titles in the 5 seasons before Muschamp arrived and had finished #3 another year. Muschamp did well in year 2 mostly because of Meyer's players, even though year 1 was only 7-6. But by year 3 he ruins things so much they go 4-8 and lose to Ga. Southern. Why would any BCS program want to touch this guy?
This post was edited on 4/16/16 at 1:15 pm
Posted by LowCountryBuckeye
Member since Jul 2015
263 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:18 pm to
because Plan A-F turned them down.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:18 pm to
It was a pretty underwhelming hire, especially since they had a head start on searching for coaches.

I think he could do well at SC because they have lower expectations compared to UF. I worry about his personality. Bringing in Roper was a questionable move as well
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:21 pm to
I honestly believe they had Tom Herman until someone ran their mouth. Then I believe they were close with Smart and that's why Georgia made their decision to part ways with Richt. I think Muschamp is on a very short leash.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25849 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by Category5hurricane
Member since Feb 2016
230 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:22 pm to
As a Miami fan I'd almost be willing to say that even Al Golden would have been a less bad hire than Muschamp. He had a similiar record after taking over a program in much worse shape than Muschamp did. Not sure if Golden's scuedules were any worse than Muschamp's since the SEC East was down for most of Muschamp's tenure.
Posted by 2014cock
Member since Apr 2011
628 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:25 pm to
Failing at UF does not automatically mean he will not do well at USC. He checked a lot of Tanner's boxes. Good recruiter, SEC guy, able to hire a good staff, etc.

Muschamp has had the opportunity to learn from his mistakes. Whether or not he learned from his mistakes at UF will be the difference in this being a good or bad hire.
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
21589 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:29 pm to
His sideline personality in the Iron Bowl tells me he's matured as a leader.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45195 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:30 pm to
Urban left him with a dumpster fire. So did Spurrier.

Maybe they liked that he had experience with dumpster fires?
Posted by 2014cock
Member since Apr 2011
628 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

His sideline personality in the Iron Bowl tells me he's matured as a leader.


Apparently Tanner talked to him extensively about this, but in the end can he change? Not sure. There's a lot of unknowns with Muschamp but if he can get his act together he can be a successful head coach here.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:35 pm to
He put together a staff that can recruit really well. At worst, in four years you will be stacked for the next coach.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45195 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

At worst, in four years you will be stacked for the next coach.


With 6 total offensive lineman
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:40 pm to
I'm not sure what happened with that
Posted by gatortrav88
Member since Oct 2014
3807 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:54 pm to
And not a single wide receiver worth a shite and kelvin Taylor as your only decent tail back
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:57 pm to
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kelvin Taylor as your only decent tail back


How is Kelvin Taylor gonna have eligibility to play at USC in 2020?
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
21858 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:58 pm to
Because everyone else we wanted said no
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45195 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

How is Kelvin Taylor gonna have eligibility to play at USC in 2020?


Kelvin Taylor is Fred's other son. He really liked the name
Posted by KingSlayer
Member since May 2015
2854 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 2:09 pm to
Because he was the best coach available at the time that fit the criteria our AD was looking for. Herman was our first target, and had we not shite the bed and lost to the Citadel making him rethink how big a rebuilding job he had ahead of him, he'd be the coach here now. Our AD thought the deal was done and was caught a bit off guard when Herman backed out. He next set after Smart, and that caused Georgia to finally pull the plug on Richt and get Smart. So the initial top 3 we had were off the board, with Virgina Tech having hired the Memphis coach.

Of the other candidates available, Muschamp was the choice that best fit our needs. He may end up being a great hire, or he may end up being a disaster, only time will tell. A few things in his pro column are that he will be a relentless worker and recruiter, which we didn't have with Spurrier. He will upgrade our defense immensely from where it was the past two years as he is a very good defensive coach and can spot talent that will fit his system. He has experience being a head coach in the SEC, so he won't be shocked or surprised by things he is required to handle as a first time coach might. Also, he didn't succeed the first time, so he has to know this is his last real chance so hopefully he will be focused and driven.

It's not like we passed up on Saban, Harbaugh, or Urban to hire Muschamp. From the way things worked out, he was our best option. Timing is everything.
Posted by gatortrav88
Member since Oct 2014
3807 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 2:12 pm to
One thing I wonder about how much better can sc recruiting really get? Wasn't spurrier bringing in like 10 or 12 four stars every year?

I understand the classes didn't develop as well in the later years but muschamp also had huge problems in that area esp on offense
This post was edited on 4/16/16 at 2:16 pm
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 2:19 pm to
Muschamp came to give us a lot of content to bump after he runs train on the East this year.
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