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re: Why College Station, TX hotels SOLD out for May 9-11

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Posted by bbap
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 12:01 am to
Just means I didn't go to a weird arse school that doesn't have rooms available because apparently a sock hop is going on.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 12:03 am to
Commissioning is the ceremony by which cadets become commissioned officers, jihadist.
Posted by Mizzeaux
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 12:05 am to
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Commissioning is the ceremony by which cadets become commissioned officers, jihadist.


Please ignore everything about this post that may be construed as trolling.

They become officers in the Texas A&M Cadet Army, not anything else, right?

Posted by bbap
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 12:05 am to
Sounds awesome.
Posted by graychef
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 12:05 am to
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Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 12:06 am to
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What is boot dance?


Formal event for the incoming senior cadets.

Follows "Final Review", a "pass-in-review" ceremony in which the first pass is a normal parade march, and the second pass is one in which the "reviewing officer" is the outgoing senior class and the cadets formally take the rank and positions they will hold the following year.

It's the first time the following year's seniors wear their senior boots.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 12:07 am to
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They become officers in the Texas A&M Cadet Army, not anything else, right?


No, when you commission, you hold the pay grade of O-1. Is that clear enough?
This post was edited on 4/26/13 at 12:09 am
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 12:08 am to
Closest city I can find a hotel since CS is full?
Posted by Mizzeaux
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 12:09 am to
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When you commission, you hold the rank of either 2nd Lieutenant or Ensign. Is that clear enough?



Like I said, not trying to be a douche. It's a real thing, right?

Give me a pay grade, it's the only thing I've got to compare since my brother's in the service.

ETA: Good edit. Thanks.
This post was edited on 4/26/13 at 12:11 am
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 12:10 am to
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Closest city I can find a hotel since CS is full?


North Houston would be your best bet. Navasota, Jersey Village, Tomball, etc.

Frankly, I would avoid staying in College Station for gameday as well. Just easier to stay closer to IAH.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 12:10 am to
The order of events is:

1. Graduation (3 ceremonies: Friday afternoon, Friday evening, Saturday morning)

2. Commissioning (Saturday afternoon)

3. Final Review (immediately following commissioning)

4. Boot Dance (Saturday evening)

The cadets are usually moving out between Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning as all of the students not involved are usually gone by the Wednesday prior (last finals are that Tuesday).
This post was edited on 4/26/13 at 12:13 am
Posted by Mizzeaux
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 12:12 am to
Didn't realize the whole cadet thing was an alternative to the service academies.

I knew it had a little to do with it, but not that much.

are all the cadets in the cadet system to become officers, or do only a portion get to that level by the end of the program?

ETA: not trying to hijack, but it's a slow enough time on the rant to ask.
This post was edited on 4/26/13 at 12:13 am
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 12:17 am to
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Didn't realize the whole cadet thing was an alternative to the service academies.

I knew it had a little to do with it, but not that much.

are all the cadets in the cadet system to become officers, or do only a portion get to that level by the end of the program?


Can't commission every cadet due to federal law. Each college and university is capped at the number of ROTC commissions they can give by the respective branches of service. (for example, my year group commissioned about 150 - 40 in December, 74 in May, and 36 in August of academic year 1999-2000)

All cadets are required to choose an ROTC affiliation to start with. Prior to a cadet's junior year, he either elects to compete for a commission or does what's called "drill and ceremonies", in which he is still a cadet, but is no longer affiliated with ROTC. Usually all cadets who wish to commission are given the opportunity to do so, but lately they have been denying applications, using very strict disqualifiers (mostly medical) to push those cadets into D&C.

Even if you don't accept a commission through ROTC, you can still apply for OCS before you turn 28 (or have a valid waiver if older) if you wish to pursue it after the fact.

The only three colleges and universities that are allowed by law to commission all of their uniformed students are the service academies.
This post was edited on 4/26/13 at 12:19 am
Posted by bdelarosa7
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 12:19 am to
During World War II, TAMU produced 20,229 combat troops. Of those, 14,123 Aggies served as officers, more than any other school and more than the combined total of the United States Naval Academy and the United States Military Academy. During the war, 29 A&M graduates reached the rank of general.

Under federal law, Texas A&M University, along with five other U.S. colleges, is classified as a senior military college.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 12:21 am to
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During World War II, TAMU produced 20,229 combat troops. Of those, 14,123 Aggies served as officers, more than any other school and more than the combined total of the United States Naval Academy and the United States Military Academy. During the war, 29 A&M graduates reached the rank of general.


The way they accomplished this is by commissioning officers after only one year of pre-commissioning training, effectively instituting "degree completion".

Basically, you were commissioned as a Lieutenant after 1 year of school and if you survived WWII, you came back and finished your degree if you wished to retain your rank.

Prior to the 60's, the Cadet Corps (which made up the entire student body) numbered over 10,000.
This post was edited on 4/26/13 at 12:22 am
Posted by Mizzeaux
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 12:22 am to
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Under federal law, Texas A&M University, along with five other U.S. colleges, is classified as a senior military college.



So in reality, an aTm grad is held in the same regard as a West Point, Naval Academy, or USAFA grad when they come out of school?
Posted by bdelarosa7
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 12:25 am to
General George Patton reportedly said:

"Give me an army of West Point graduates, I'll win a battle. Give me a handful of Texas Aggies and I'll win a war."

Not sure I can confirm this though
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 12:26 am to
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So in reality, an aTm grad is held in the same regard as a West Point, Naval Academy, or USAFA grad when they come out of school?


Yes...and no.

Senior Military Colleges are considered the highest tier of ROTC programs, but are not military academies that are run and staffed by the DoD.

To qualify as a Senior Military College, you have to meet the following criteria:

-Offer all three branches of ROTC (Army, Navy, Air Force - Marines all commission under the Naval pre-commissioning program)

-Remaining requirements covered here.

The specific regulation governing this is Title 10, Section 2111, Paragraph a, subsection (f)
This post was edited on 4/26/13 at 12:30 am
Posted by bdelarosa7
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 12:29 am to
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Texas A&M and Virginia Tech were granted exemptions from requiring the entire student body to be in uniform (forget which grandfather clause).
I thought that students didn't have to serve because the majority of incoming students are excused by the University Administration and the Commandant?
Posted by Mizzeaux
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 12:30 am to
So is it a matter of sending students to school while acting as a uniformed member of the armed forces, or are there actual military/war classes that they take?

Again, not trolling, but is it sending men and women to school, having them act as a military unit while learning the same shite as everyone else, or is it a military type schooling thing?
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