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re: Why can't Saban keep a consistent coaching staff?

Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
6858 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:01 pm to
DUH! He's a dick!
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:03 pm to
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make lateral moves (i.e. Nussmeier to Michigan, Sark to NFL).


Wow

Please stop posting
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:05 pm to
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Don't try to backpedal from your absurd take by throwing that kind of logic out there.


The only thing he has left at this point
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9924 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:07 pm to
He's an a-hole to work for. He overworks and berates his coaches. He chews out volunteer staffers. He generally treats people like shite. First better opportunity, they bolt. But, he can also rehabilitate a career, so he can still pick up decent talent that is down on their luck.
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:43 pm to
LSU fans know Saban better than anyone on this planet. A true battered ex-wife you are.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:48 pm to
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Yes, some of his offensive coordinators get promoted, but some also leave and make lateral moves (i.e. Nussmeier to Michigan, Sark to NFL).

Is Saban really that difficult to work for? Seems like he likes to burn bridges and doesn't care, he just wants to win.

I guess add coaches to the word PROCESSED.


...a Fla. guy smacking about consistant coaching staffs...this is choice!
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:01 pm to
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Yet so many coaches have worked multiple stints with him.


Bc he is fair. Some people may not work well being upright all the time, however he will teach you the exact ins and outs of the business and give you a fair shot to succeed.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:08 pm to
Why couldn't Florida keep Meyer?
Posted by elit4ce05
Member since Jun 2011
3743 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:16 pm to
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volunteer staffers

Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:53 pm to
He likes to keep things fresh
Posted by ArabianKnight
Member since Jul 2010
2617 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:01 pm to
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First better opportunity, they bolt


Like Kirby Smart did?

I guess Pruett didn't realize how hard he was to work for the first time, right?

Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7289 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:37 pm to
It's obvious that he just doesn't know what he is doing. Duh...
Posted by BamaELCo
Alabama
Member since Jun 2012
3210 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:00 pm to
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Nussmeier


told to find a new job

quote:

Sark to NFL


NFL OC > SEC OC

Not a lateral move

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Seems like he likes to burn bridges and doesn't care


Then why coaches who have been under him in the past jump at a chance to come back and be part of his staff at Alabama.

quote:

Is Saban really that difficult to work for?


Probably ain't easy, but being the best at what you do ain't supposed to be easy.

quote:

he just wants to win


You telling us they're some head coaches out there who are cool with losing?


You need to cinch up your jorts baw.

Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10321 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:33 pm to
Forget Nussmeier and Sark. Ask your old coach why.

quote:

SPLIT WITH SABAN Another factor in his abrupt departure from the NFL was a break in the respect between him and Saban. Saban's gruff manner - "he's never going to be your friend," one former assistant said this spring - and unwillingness to give Muschamp full control of the defense contributed to the rift. One example of the deterioration between the two was Saban reprimanding Muschamp's mother over the phone during the off-season. While Will Muschamp and his wife were on vacation in the Bahamas, his parents, Larry and Sally Muschamp, were babysitting their children in Coral Springs when an angry Saban called the house. He needed a particular document from Muschamp, and ordered Sally to fax it to him. Not finding a fax machine in her son's home, Sally drove to an office supply store to send it. Thirty minutes later, Saban had not received it and called again. He had given her the wrong number, Sally said. "Where's that fax?" Saban barked. "Get it to me now." Larry, by far the more easygoing of Muschamp's parents, was irate. "That son of a bitch," he said. "I'm surprised she didn't say, 'When it gets there, put it where the sun don't shine.' She didn't. But that's Saban.


LINK
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7289 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:37 pm to
So you are saying that Nick Saban can be an a-hole and that he takes his job to seriously? Geez guy, that's some breaking news right there. Tell us more please. ....
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:39 pm to
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LSU82BILL


From article found in the post you linked to:

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Mike Muschamp, Will's oldest brother, added, "If you ask Will for the guys who had the most influence on him, I think Nick would be the first guy he'd talk about."


Nick keeps coaches for as long as anyone else. He extremely rarely publicly fires or "assigns to an off field role" any of his coaches. Many move on for better opportunities, and some are given the opportunity to find another job before being let go (see Applewhite, Major leaving the job of OC at Bama to take the RB coaching position at Texas)
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10321 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:40 pm to
I'm not saying anything frickstick. I just posted a quote. You can draw your own conclusions.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:43 pm to
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SPLIT WITH SABAN Another factor in his abrupt departure from the NFL was a break in the respect between him and Saban. Saban's gruff manner - "he's never going to be your friend," one former assistant said this spring - and unwillingness to give Muschamp full control of the defense contributed to the rift. One example of the deterioration between the two was Saban reprimanding Muschamp's mother over the phone during the off-season. While Will Muschamp and his wife were on vacation in the Bahamas, his parents, Larry and Sally Muschamp, were babysitting their children in Coral Springs when an angry Saban called the house. He needed a particular document from Muschamp, and ordered Sally to fax it to him. Not finding a fax machine in her son's home, Sally drove to an office supply store to send it. Thirty minutes later, Saban had not received it and called again. He had given her the wrong number, Sally said. "Where's that fax?" Saban barked. "Get it to me now." Larry, by far the more easygoing of Muschamp's parents, was irate. "That son of a bitch," he said. "I'm surprised she didn't say, 'When it gets there, put it where the sun don't shine.' She didn't. But that's Saban.
Muschamp's mama!!...that's what you got??
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10321 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:45 pm to
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If you ask Will for the guys who had the most influence on him, I think Nick would be the first guy he'd talk about.


I don't doubt that for a second. Even the worst boss you could ever have can be a huge "influence". 95% of what that boss does can be positive. It only takes that other 5% to make working for him a nightmare.
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:48 pm to
Kirby smart worked for him for a decade. Coach Mac worked for him for 4 seasons then became a head coach. Kiffin worked for him for 3 seasons. Nuss was told to find other work. Name me one successful college program that has kept a whole choaching staff in tact for more than two or three seasons?
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