re: Why are people convinced Georgia is going to be magically better this season?

Never underestimate the power of Little Debbies

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It's not like Georgia lacked talent going into last season.

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We have lacked talent at key positions not the least of which is the OL. Richt was always good at recruiting skill players; not so much in the trenches where it counts most. That seems to be changing under Smart. I guess we will see if it translates into a more competitive team.

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and it was in response to a comment that had nothing to do with mcelwain.

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I was using it as a barometer when in comparison to Kirby and how people just ignore the recruiting differences going in.

It's...almost...like a comparison!

You know, apples to apples. To show how bad of a hire Kirby was. 3 top 10 classes and you still can't beat Florida, who had the #21 and #12 class and less offensive talent.

Thick frick.

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WM has been a head coach for 5 years...Kirby only 1. This is a stupid comparison and you know it.

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As much as you want it to be, it's not that far from the truth.

2016 class you had the #8th ranked recruiting.

2015 you had the #5th ranked class.

2014 you had 8th.

That's three top-ten recruiting classes in a row, and I'm sorry but when McElwain came to Florida he literally only had one side of the ball that was even remotely recruited.

There's no way a coach can inherit that talent and suck as much shite as Kirby did his first year.

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I've said it numerous times but "ranking" is woefully inaccurate to compare across classes becuase not every class is competing against the same teams. A better comparison is to look at overall score, since those can be easily compared to other scores across other years.

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2016 class you had the #8th ranked recruiting.

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277 points

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2015 you had the #5th ranked class

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282 points

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2014 you had 8th.

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273 points

This year we had 300 points. This class is FAR better than any signed under Richt and that's a fact. But I want to point out again that in my first post ITT I mentioend this class last, because I don't feel it's AS important as my other points.

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That's three top-ten recruiting classes in a row, and I'm sorry but when McElwain came to Florida he literally only had one side of the ball that was even remotely recruited.

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You're mixing talent and coaching into 1 thing. On the talent issue, WM has always been a defensive guru and he left the cupboard stocked, and it's showed as UF has played great defense under mac. As far as coachign, which is one of the points I've been making, mac got his feet wet at a HC gig for several years before coming to UF. He's been around the block...is it really surprising he's a better HC than a guy doing it for the first time?

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here's no way a coach can inherit that talent and suck as much shite as Kirby did his first year.

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Once again the "talent" is misleading because so much of it is so young. We signed a great class in 2016, but if you're relying heavily on true freshman youv'e got problems. We had a good bit of talent on defense, and our defense was pretty good. We had little talent on the OL and it showed. Probably our 2nd best OL who had NFL potential at guard was forced to play tackle out of necessity. Talented? Yeah..utilized as he should be? Definitely not. Our starting QB was a TFr. Our starting TE was a TFr. Our best WR was a Tfr.


And as for Kirby sucking because of his year 1 results...that's just people being willfully ignorant. Plain and simple. Were you as good in your profession the first year doing it as you are today? I would wager not. I'm not trying to sugarcoat it...kirby made a lot of mistakes last year. Anyone can see that. But the main theme I see on here (mostly from our rivals, conveniently) is that "kirby sucks, he's a lousy head coach, UGA can't ever expect to win with him" which is just illogical. It's been 1 year. Nobody on earth knows how good of a HC he'll be.

Another reason this question is absurd is that it's somehow outrageous to think that we'll "magically be better" from a season where we lost 5 games. I mean it aint gonna be that hard to improve on.

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Avg for 3 classes prior to Mac's arrival (2012-2014): 5.3
Avg for 3 classes prior to Kirby's arrival (2013-2015): 9.3

Do you still think your statement is valid?

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Here comes the inevitable, "But but but that was only defensive players. Muschamp couldn't recruit offense."... I went through this with Straws on the Recruiting Board... I pointed out the number of 4/5* offensive players brought in by Muschamp during his time relative to what Mac is bringing in (fewer) but none of this matters to Straws. You keep doing you Straws... don't let facts get in the way of a bullshite opinion.

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Here are the composite class rankings back to 2012 (chosen the capture the 3 classes prior to Mac's arrival - not including his first class in 2015).

2012: UF 4 UGA 8
2013: UF 3 UGA 12
2014: UF 9 UGA 8
2015: UF 21 UGA 8
2016: UF 12 UGA 8

Avg for 3 classes prior to Mac's arrival (2012-2014): 5.3
Avg for 3 classes prior to Kirby's arrival (2013-2015): 9.3

Do you still think your statement is valid?

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yeah I'd say when you practically don't even have a senior class it's gonna cause some issues.

You guys have been talking about WM forever in a day.... the guy ain't at UF anymore let it go already