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re: Why all the picks for UGA to win the east over SCAR?

Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:01 pm to
Posted by MenloDawg
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:01 pm to
Is there a legitimate competition there or is this kid seeing the field only in the event that Thompson craps the bed in the September? The latter seems unlikely given the other pieces already in place on your offense?
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25851 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

South Carolina is going from having to play Arkansas every year to Texas A&M.


And? Have you forgotten what A&M was under the previous 2 coaches? SC-A&M mid 2000s would've just been a battle for bowl eligibility.

If anything A&M now has to play SC while it is at it's best.

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Is there a legitimate competition there or is this kid seeing the field only in the event that Thompson craps the bed in the September?


You should know better. With Spurrier Thompson could have a bad 3 QTs in November and Mitch might hit the field. Spurrier doesn't deal in streaks, he plays whoever he thinks will play better at that exact moment.
Posted by socraticsilence
Member since Dec 2013
1347 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:17 pm to
Florida's a huge, huge dark horse for the East- admittedly its 50/50 boom or bust, but people don't realize Florida's going back to the spread option they'll be more like Auburn or Ohio State than the crap Boom's been throwing on the field the last 3 seasons.
Posted by MenloDawg
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:18 pm to


True, you never know what Spurrier is going to pull.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:22 pm to
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Florida's a huge, huge dark horse for the East-


Im worried about your schedule...

I think Florida will be much improved. But that schedule is brutal

Posted by MenloDawg
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:22 pm to
UF certainly has a shot. You drew a bad rotation from the West, which is tough. I could see the running game being pretty solid. I think everybody is in wait and see mode on Driskel limiting turnovers and somebody stepping up and making plays at WR.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95885 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:39 pm to
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Spurrier doesn't deal in streaks, he plays whoever he thinks will play better at that exact moment.


Unless the QBs name is Garcia
Posted by socraticsilence
Member since Dec 2013
1347 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:40 pm to
I think Turnovers will be less of an issue if the shift to the HUNH is true, I'm honestly more worried about us going into a shell the first time something bad happens or we get up 7 on Bama or something, I just worry that Boom can't fully change who he is in an offseason.
Posted by socraticsilence
Member since Dec 2013
1347 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:44 pm to
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If Florida gets its shite together on O, going to be some damn good games in the east


Not sure Florida will be all the way back offensively, but I see a definite improvement. taht could be all you need. A tough schedule will keep you from winning the East, but I can see you making MAJOR noise in 2014 and then be back in 2015 making everybody's lives miserable.


2015 is interesting, the problem is that Boom has dug himself such a deep hole that he can't really weather a "bad schedule + new coordinator means 7-5 and hope for next season" type of year-- if we don't make Atlanta this year, especially if we drop one to UGA again, I don't think anyone would be shocked if Florida blows it up even if we double our win total from last season.
Posted by Tackle74
Columbia, MO
Member since Mar 2012
5254 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:48 pm to
Yeah I wrestled and have coached it for 20+ years. Love the sport. Last I knew Coach Smith still had a camp in GA. Mizzou has another exciting stud in Jaden Cox, was NCAA Champ as a true freshman at 197. Wish more SEC schools would pick the sport up but Title IX has killed wrestling in college. As for Askren he was an absolute beast and so fun to watch with all that crazy funk he would pull.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25851 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:50 pm to
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Unless the QBs name is Garcia


Only because the options behind him weren't stellar, except Shaw, who didn't play well a lot of the times when he had his opportunities with Garcia still here.
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:12 pm to
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Florida's a huge, huge dark horse for the East- admittedly its 50/50 boom or bust,
FWIW, I think Florida is going to be our second toughest game behind having to travel to auburn. I think many fellow gamecocks share that sentiment.
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 1:50 am to
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Check the stats...
QB A:
5th yr SR.
2013 season:
2 starts, 5 appearances
968 yds, 60.9%, 8.8 yds/att, 5 TDs, 3 INTs
-21 rushing yds, 1 TD
Career:
2 starts, 13 appearances
1,324 yds, 59.8%, 8.4 yds/att, 7 TDs, 3 INTs
-21 rushing yds, 2 TDs

QB B:
5th yr SR.
2013 season:
1 start, 10 appearances
783 yds, 58.4%, 8.8 yds/att, 4 TDs, 3 INTs
27 rushing yds, 3 TDs
Career:
3 starts, 25 appearances
1,827 yds, 55%, 8.4 yds/att, 14 TDs, 5 INTs
66 rushing yds, 5 TDs

You choose...
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 7:17 am to
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I think Florida will be much improved. But that schedule is brutal



My thoughts exactly.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 7:20 am to
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Wish more SEC schools would pick the sport up but Title IX has killed wrestling in college. As for Askren he was an absolute beast and so fun to watch with all that crazy funk he would pull.



My son did pretty well in high school. His biggest problem was he depended too much on his strength. I'll keep an eye on Jaden Cox. My son coached High school wrestling last year, but probably will not teach this year, so will not coach.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75408 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 7:40 am to
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UF certainly has a shot. You drew a bad rotation from the West, which is tough


@Bama certainly won't be easy. LSU, while a good team, is at home for us. Also, Depends on how their QB situation is as well and while I have nothing against the Tigers, it's not unwinnable game either.

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I could see the running game being pretty solid. I think everybody is in wait and see mode on Driskel limiting turnovers and somebody stepping up and making plays at WR.



I agree, although health/depth are the big issue. Driskel, when healthy, wasn't all that terrible. The running, like you said, certainly needs to be huge.

2014 definitely will be an interesting year, no doubt.
This post was edited on 7/4/14 at 7:41 am
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 12:27 pm to
I love downvotes with no explanation. You know that poster is just mad with nothing to say.
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 6:25 pm to
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It's just the faith they put in the talent we usually have. Also even though it is a new defense the general consensus is that Pruitt is a major step up from Grantham.

Mason doesn't have to be totally spectacular also, Gurley and Co can carry a good bit of the load. We just need some decent work out of the play action from Mason and for him to manage the game.


Our OL and Secondary are my biggest concerns. We lost some exp. on the line and our secondary is decimated from transfers/Athens-Clarke County PD/and Pruitt cracking the whip a little too hard.

I personally feel a 9-3 or 10-2 season with a 2nd place SEC East finish behind SC.


Well, overall the matter may be a moot one, because in recent years even when USC has beaten UGA, UGA has still found a way to go on and win the division (except last season of course), but a good question to ask:


Who was the better defensive coordinator for UGA - Willie Martinez or Todd Grantham?


The reason I ask is, when Grantham came in and replaced Martinez, UGA Nation was soundly united in declaring that he was a prohibitive improvement over Martinez. A "major step up", one could easily say...

(T. Grantham)

Year - Total D Rank (SEC / CFB)- - Score D Rank (SEC / CFB)

2013: #8 / #45 - - #10 / #79
2012: #6 / #32 - - #6 / #18
2011: #4 / #5 - - #6 / #23
2010: #4 / #23 - - ##5 / #36

Average Rankings:

5.5 / 26.25 - - 6.75 / 39.0

(W. Martinez)

2009: #7 / #38 - - #10 / #63
2008: #6 / #22 - - #10 / #58
2007: #3 / #14 - - #3 / #18
2006: #3 / #8 - - #4 / #20
2005: #5 / #18 - - #4 / #8

Average Rankings:

4.8 / 20.0 - - 6.20 / 33.4

(B. VanGorder)

2004: #4 / #8 - - #3 / #9
2003: #2 / #4 - - #2 / #3
2002: #4 / #15 - - #1 / #4
2001: #6 / #49 - - #3 / #17

Average Rankings:

4.0 / 19.0 - - 2.25 / 8.25


The averages seem to indicate that Martinez ultimately was the BETTER DC for UGA than Grantham was, and produced the better defensive seasons between the two.

We may need to wait and see more pudding with Pruitt, IMO....

This post was edited on 7/4/14 at 6:26 pm
Posted by dallasga6
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Member since Mar 2009
25661 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 6:36 pm to
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(T. Grantham)

Year - Total D Rank (SEC / CFB)- - Score D Rank (SEC / CFB)

2013: #8 / #45 - - #10 / #79
2012: #6 / #32 - - #6 / #18
2011: #4 / #5 - - #6 / #23
2010: #4 / #23 - - ##5 / #36

Average Rankings:

5.5 / 26.25 - - 6.75 / 39.0

(W. Martinez)

2009: #7 / #38 - - #10 / #63
2008: #6 / #22 - - #10 / #58
2007: #3 / #14 - - #3 / #18
2006: #3 / #8 - - #4 / #20
2005: #5 / #18 - - #4 / #8



There's this little thing called a trend...

People who like to deride CMR & UGA like to say he's trending down since '07...

You can't use overall #'s to make your point, you've gotta use the trends...

Come on... get with the bashing program...
This post was edited on 7/4/14 at 6:42 pm
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 6:38 pm to
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Why all the picks for UGA to win the east over SCAR?


Well according to the posters here:

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