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re: Who wins the SC v. UGA game and why?
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:59 am to LC412000
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:59 am to LC412000
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I went with Georgia only because I think they need the win after the loss to Clemson
If USC wins the game this could be the end if the GA season and Coach Richt era in Athens
This is pretty much what I think. Can't really prove why I think GA will win, but their backs are against the wall and they will pull it out.
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Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:03 am to elposter
Picked UGA to at least split the first two games, so I'll maintain my pick of them beating SC.
Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:03 am to LongueCarabine
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but their backs are against the wall and they will pull it out
This is probably my main reasoning, plus it's at home. Wouldn't surprise me if SC won in Athens, but I think UGA pulls out the W.
Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:04 am to elposter
Georgia. Good team, backs against the wall, games in Georgia right?
Georgia.
Georgia.
Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:29 am to TigerTreyjpg
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Georgia. Good team, backs against the wall, games in Georgia right?
Georgia.
That part in bold is what we don't know. UGA has fine skill position players, to be sure. A talented QB, great RBs, and a solid (if not overwhelming) WR corps. But the OL and DL are suspect, the secondary is largely unknown, and the linebackers lost a ton from last year.
Georgia has good parts. We don't know if they have a good team.
Please understand that I'm not trying to argue that Carolina is a good team, either. We just don't know yet.
All that said, my head says USC is the better team. My heart says Shaw finds a way to frick it up.
Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:32 am to RoyalAir
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RoyalAir
Rational, thought out points. You should post more.
Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:54 am to therick711
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Oh, sweet Jesus, are we penalizing running backs for breaking long runs again like a fricking moron? Seriously, people don't be fricking stupid. You play a guy like Gurley precisely because he can strike for a touchdown from anywhere.
Big plays happen, but aren't always a great indicator of success. Georgia only had one such run that night. Revisit a few of the touchdowns that the 2011 Alabama defense yielded. Florida hit a bomb against Alabama and did nothing else. Georgia Southern only hit one pass against Alabama, and it was a 39 yard touchdown.
The point I am raising is that big plays don't always reflect how things really went. 2011 Florida and Georgia Southern truly didn't have much success versus the Alabama secondary, but they both put a long passing touchdown on the board.
Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:56 am to Gardevoir
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12 carries - 154 yards and 2 touchdowns. Half of that was from the 75 yard touchdown run.
In reality, he was nicked but 11 carries for 79 yards and a touchdown is a more accurate indicator of his success versus Clemson.
With that logic, based in so much reality, I would say to take a look at the SC v. UNC game.
Take away the Mike Davis 75 yd run and he rushes for 50 yds on 11 carries. That's quite paltry against a team like UNC.
Take away Shaq Roland's 65 yd TD and Shaw is 10-19 for 84 yds.
Hell, take away those two big plays and the score is 13-10.
This post was edited on 9/5/13 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:58 am to RoyalAir
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All that said, my head says USC is the better team. My heart says Shaw finds a way to frick it up.
Why does you heart say that? He has a great career record, and can you really put last year's Florida loss on him? Honestly, that is the only game that is unforgivable. LSU dominated you guys in Death Valley last year, but they were coming off a close loss on the road versus Florida while South Carolina was coming down from an emotional high versus Georgia.
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:09 pm to MenloDawg
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Take away Shaq Roland's 65 yd TD and Shaw is 10-19 for 84 yds.
Shaw is a threat to UGA in the air and on the ground. I see you neglected to put Shaw's total yds, which would be his total effect on the game. (192 yds) You can't deny that he gives defenses fits on the ground and should do so in Athens.
Connor also makes VERY few mistakes and can make all the short and intermediate throws (see Mizzou '12, 20comp of 21att) I will give you that he struggles with deeper routes though.
Also, just in case you didn't see the game, Shaw and Roland almost hooked up for another TD in the 1st quarter that Roland really should have had, it was very close.
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:09 pm to LongueCarabine
What's with the backs against the wall crap? They started 0-2 a couple years back and still made it to the SECCG.
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:13 pm to atlgamecockman
Remember, this is based off Gardevoir's logic, I'm not discounting Shaw at all as he killed us with his legs last year.
But if you take away the 75 yd rush TD as suggested, then Davis, Wilds, and Shaw combined rush 35 times for 147 yds or 4.2 yds a carry against UNC. If you include Carson's totals, the avg yds/carry goes down even more to like 4.13. That's not exactly terrifying.
But if you take away the 75 yd rush TD as suggested, then Davis, Wilds, and Shaw combined rush 35 times for 147 yds or 4.2 yds a carry against UNC. If you include Carson's totals, the avg yds/carry goes down even more to like 4.13. That's not exactly terrifying.
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:14 pm to theGarnetWay
My gut feeling is that Clowney will be coming out with something to prove to the doubters this weekend and our D-Line will give Murray fits all game. Murray will have some success passing to the RBs and TE's but he won't have much success going deep. Our rushing attack will struggle early but will tire out UGA's defense as the game wears on and Shaw will play well enough to control the ball more than UGA will.
USC 31 UGA 21
USC 31 UGA 21
This post was edited on 9/5/13 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:17 pm to MenloDawg
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Gardevoir's logic
Somewhat faulty ha I suppose, but those numbers don't really worry me. First game jitters, shaking the rust off, whatever you wanna call it... Our run game will be just as good as last year if not better I think.
Most people don't recognize this, but we play running back by committee just as much as UGA. Watch out for Brandon Wilds, he is big and he is mean and he is fast. I have a feeling that SOS is gonna try to grind UGA into the ground with the run and strike on that young secondary when the safties come up.
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:20 pm to atlgamecockman
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Most people don't recognize this, but we play running back by committee just as much as UGA. Watch out for Brandon Wilds, he is big and he is mean and he is fast. I have a feeling that SOS is gonna try to grind UGA into the ground with the run and strike on that young secondary when the safties come up.
I think you'll see much less running back by committee for us this weekend and MUCH more Gurley provided that he is healthy. Marshall getting probably only a single drive to himself and some 3rd situations here and there.
I think we'll see your backup QB a ton this weekend, personally, but that's just a hunch.
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:23 pm to MenloDawg
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I think we'll see your backup QB a ton this weekend, personally, but that's just a hunch
And I think that would be fine for most of us Gamecocks
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:23 pm to MenloDawg
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I think you'll see much less running back by committee for us this weekend and MUCH more Gurley provided that he is healthy. Marshall getting probably only a single drive to himself and some 3rd situations here and there.
I think we'll see your backup QB a ton this weekend, personally, but that's just a hunch.
Defense will definitely be keying on Gurley. We didn't play Cedrick Cooper last week since he's been a bit injured, but he should be coming back this week and he is easily one of our best LB if not THE best LB, so that will definitely help in containing Gurshall.
And yeah SOS loves to play Thompson a lot since he is more of a downfield passer. I can imagine he will put in DT to torch those freshman corners.
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:34 pm to Boom Angry
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UGA seems to play better as the underdog so I think they'll win this one.
UGA is favored by 3.5
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:36 pm to Gamecox20
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UGA is favored by 3.5
Every team plays better as underdog, and this 3.5 is only because it's at UGA
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:36 pm to MenloDawg
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I'm not discounting Shaw at all as he killed us with his legs last year
I'm expecting we come out and mix running the ball up the middle out of the I formation with the zone read.
We didn't see many zone read plays against UNC so that could be what we focus on this week.
Of course its the HBC so we could come out and throw the ball the first 13 plays of the game (would be a mistake imo)
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