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re: Who will be the biggest SEC bust in this NFL draft class?
Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:26 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:26 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
Jalen Tabor was the better db on the team and possible one of the best in the country
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Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:26 pm to lsufball19
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yeah, and he's an exception. You have to go back to 1995 ton find a non-FCS QB even drafted in the 1st round
Well, Miami (OH) isn't a football power. I'm sure that NDSU would put up a similar record to Miami if they played in their conference with same schedule.
I can't stand the guy, but Big Ben has been very solid, too. Point being, you can come from a smaller school and have success:
Small school with big success:
Romo
Big Ben
Flacco
Guys like Brees, Matt Ryan, Russell Wilson, Bridgewater, Cutler, Derek Carr, Cam Newton, Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, Blake Bortles, and many more have all come from schools that aren't typically football powerhouses and they've all had success in the league too.
This post was edited on 4/6/16 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:35 pm to Patton
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Tell me about Floyd. He's getting some talk to the Gmen at 10.
That would be an awful pick. As PF alluded to, I love Floyd's peak potential... the problem is he absolutely disappears during games. He's a "me" guy as well (evidenced by the meltdown after not getting defensive player of the year award this season). When he's playing lights out, you want him on your team, but for a top 10 pick, I'd need a guy that I know is going to do that consistently. I think his body also lends him to fall in the tweener category a bit.
He is a hell of a player, but I have a feeling he ends up being a situational pass rush guy only which is not worth a first round pick, let alone a top 10 pick.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:38 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
With you all the way here. Not a fan of what Ragland or Floyd offer in round 1. If we can't get D. Lee, would rather see us trade back and pick up extra 2nd/3rd round picks this year, since we have fewer total picks available.
As far as biggest bust from the SEC, seems like Nkemdiche is the most likely. Tunsil's going to have the biggest shoes to fill, and the higher your draft position, the bigger the bust can be, but I just see Nkemdiche potentially fizzling out all together in a couple of years. Maybe he gets it all together, but nothing indicating that's the most likely outcome at this point.
As far as biggest bust from the SEC, seems like Nkemdiche is the most likely. Tunsil's going to have the biggest shoes to fill, and the higher your draft position, the bigger the bust can be, but I just see Nkemdiche potentially fizzling out all together in a couple of years. Maybe he gets it all together, but nothing indicating that's the most likely outcome at this point.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:39 pm to bamasgot13
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Guys like Brees, Matt Ryan, Russell Wilson, Bridgewater, Cutler, Derek Carr, Cam Newton, Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, Blake Bortles, and many more have all come from schools that aren't typically football powerhouses and they've all had success in the league too.
Well played.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:47 pm to thunderbird1100
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For a 1st round pick, Ingram is a bust. He's missed way too many games and overall hasn't performed like a 1st round pick at RB should. He's averaging 639 rushing yards per season, his best season ever was 964 yards and he's ran for 3,195 yards in 62 games played which means he's averaging a whopping 51.5 yards per game (that he actually plays in) with only 26 rushing TDs. When you look at the stats, nothing indicates Ingram has been a "success" as a 1st round pick in any of these stats.
Finally someone says it. Bama fans made him out to be the next Emmit Smith. In reality, he has been a bust. Sorry, but he was supposed to contribute way more than he has as a Heisman/late 1st round pick. THere's just no denying that.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:47 pm to bamasgot13
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I can't stand the guy, but Big Ben has been very solid, too. Point being, you can come from a smaller school and have success:
Small school with big success:
Romo
Big Ben
Flacco
Guys like Brees, Matt Ryan, Russell Wilson, Bridgewater, Cutler, Derek Carr, Cam Newton, Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, Blake Bortles, and many more have all come from schools that aren't typically football powerhouses and they've all had success in the league too.
there's a pretty significant leap from a smaller P5 school, to a non P5 school, to a non-FCS school. And yes there are guys who have had success but they are still far and few between, comparatively speaking, and regardless, they're a pretty significant risk to draft in the 1st round. No one is saying you should never draft one period, but spending 1st round money on a hope is just not the risk most GMs are willing to take, nor should they in most cases.
This post was edited on 4/6/16 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 4/6/16 at 3:21 pm to fibonaccisquared
Thanks for the write up 
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:03 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
Henry like all Bama RB's
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:17 pm to TheRealTigah
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Henry like all Bama RB's
Yeldon and Eddie Lacy aren't bust. Ingram's problem is that he gets going, then gets injured. His last two seasons have been his most productive seasons.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:32 pm to RECConspiracy
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But by definition of LSU fans and tRANT trolls, Mark Ingram is a bust and he's had decent seasons in N.O. as of late and was even re-signed.
Ingram is nowhere near a bust says this LSU fan. A bit injury prone but when healthy he produces. No way I believe Henry will be a bust, either.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:37 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
Lol shite Vernon seems like one of the safer picks imo at worst he's a good #2 corner
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:38 pm to Gary Busey
Yeldon has already been replaced
If the Jags thought he was good why sign another RB
If the Jags thought he was good why sign another RB
Posted on 4/6/16 at 5:00 pm to AUbagman
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AUbagman
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The biggest bust overall: The QB from NDSU. No way should you take a QB in the top 10 that has only FCS experience. He'll have a huge learning curve with pace and atmosphere. Taking him that early will put way too much pressure on the kid. Too bad for the kid, because he's got potential.
Know much football? Walter Peyton HOF RB went to Jackson State and the HOF WR Jerry Rice went to Mississipi Valley State and no Im not looking it up...I remember the 1970s and even can tell you Rice's QB was Willie Horton...all 6'6" 195 lbs Rice made him look real good and MVS was Div 3 back then....so the moral of the story? Dont judge a book by its cover.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 5:10 pm to TheRealTigah
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Yeldon has already been replaced
No he hasn't. The Jags got a complimentary back. Big difference. Yeldon was, and will continue to be, the Jags starting RB.
He had over 1,000 yards from scrimmage, averaged over 4 YPC, and only played in 12 games. He'll be fine and you'll continue to not know what you are talking about.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 5:11 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
He had 2 games where he looked outclassed at times, and still made really good plays in those games. 1 was against Amari Cooper, the other against Ridley, and both are 1st rd WR's. He made multiple plays in each game against both as well. Not every CB is 100%. Look at PP in the NFL, and there won't be a bigger bust in the last decade from the SEC than Morris Claiborne, he is trash.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 5:16 pm to reel_gator8
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Jerry Rice went to Mississipi Valley State and no Im not looking it up...I remember the 1970s and even can tell you Rice's QB was Willie Horton...all 6'6" 195 lbs Rice made him look real good and MVS was Div 3 back then.
It was the 1980s ('84 if I recall), and no, His QB was not Willie Horton (that was the guy in the controversial George H. W. Bush campaign ad), it was Willie "Satellite" Totten, and they were not Div. 3. They were Division I-AA in the SWAC. Lost in the NCAA Div. I-AA playoffs to Louisiana Tech 66-19.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 5:17 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
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Hargreaves. He doesn't do well against the top tier wide receivers.
Like Trent Domingue!
This post was edited on 4/6/16 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 4/6/16 at 5:19 pm to bamasgot13
Ivory is the starter
He was in the Pro Bowl last year and had much better numbers then Yeldon
The truth is the truth no matter how you Gumps try to spin it your way
He was in the Pro Bowl last year and had much better numbers then Yeldon
The truth is the truth no matter how you Gumps try to spin it your way
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