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re: Who is the best returning DE in the SEC?

Posted on 1/28/16 at 12:12 am to
Posted by UTodd98
Tennessee
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 12:12 am to
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Daeshon Hall


Who?

Bottom line: To not have Barnett 1 or at the very least 2 on any list is silly.

I can understand some people seeing Garrett as better or maybe even the kid at bama.

But to have him at the bottom (and then try to defend it) makes you look like a volsessed moron.
This post was edited on 1/28/16 at 12:13 am
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40949 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:08 am to
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He had 13 in his 4 year career.

So sure, they count.


And according to UTks site, he is a LB/DE so who knows how many sacks he actually got when playing DE opposite Barnett. And he got some of those 13 before Barnett was even at UTk.

Embellish much?



He missed all or part of 3 of his 5 seasons with injuries.

He played one full season at WLB (2011) and one full season at DE (2014) opposite Barnett. That 2014 season he had 11 sacks.

How is that embellishing?
This post was edited on 1/28/16 at 1:10 am
Posted by Opelousas Sostan
Opelousas
Member since Dec 2015
717 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 5:59 am to
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Barnett is by far the best DE in this league





Jon Allen, Tim Williams, Ryan Anderson. All better. He would be a back up at Bama. He would be a back up at aTm.

When you said league you must have meant the shitty arse Eastern Division and even that is debatable.



quote:

It's not even summer yet


Tenner rejoices.
Posted by Opelousas Sostan
Opelousas
Member since Dec 2015
717 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 6:02 am to
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Barnett could not even start here over Daeshon Hall....


Prepare to be attacked by these psychos.
Posted by Opelousas Sostan
Opelousas
Member since Dec 2015
717 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 6:04 am to
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he is not... the best


Prepare yourself.
Posted by Opelousas Sostan
Opelousas
Member since Dec 2015
717 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 6:17 am to
quote:



He missed all or part of 3 of his 5 seasons with injuries.

He played one full season at WLB (2011) and one full season at DE (2014) opposite Barnett. That 2014 season he had 11 sacks.

How is that embellishing?


Well, this entire time I was talking about last year. So Barnetts freshman year this broken down DE who had been constantly injured took away some stats from Barnett.

If anything this guy got all the attention Barnetts freshman year.

And I'm sorry Vols, a player who gets 55% of his career stats against USCe, Vandy, and UK doesn't impress as a top 3 DE.

I've said he is good, but for some fricking reason some of you take that as a troll because I say and prove over and over he is not top 3.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 6:18 am to
I'm gonna post this again because you ignored it. If Barnett is the 10th best DE in the league because of who his sacks came against, then you need to redo the whole list because:




Garrett # sacks in conference / team / Sacks allowed ranking

2 USCe 70th
1 Ark 9th
1 MS State 90th
1 AL 45th
1 LSU 30th

Garrett's 6 in conference sacks came against fronts that averaged 52nd in sacks given up

Barnett:

2 UK 93rd
2 Vandy 79th
1 UGA 15th
1 AL 45th
1 USCe 70th

Barnett's 7 in-conference sacks came against fronts that averaged 67th in sacks given up


It's really not as big of a difference as you think. Not to mention If you included freshmen stats, because if you did then Barnett kills Garrett in conference



This post was edited on 1/28/16 at 6:33 am
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37514 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 6:37 am to
I don't even think Barnett has any forced fumbles

Garrett has like 5...in conference play..
Posted by TheCosbySweater
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
1743 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 6:42 am to
Haynes and it's not even close. True story. Google it
Posted by rockytop627
Member since Jan 2014
10041 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 7:12 am to
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Opelousas Sostan


I just went through your last 10 posts or so in this thread.

Didn't read any of them.

Downvoted all of them.

Posted by Opelousas Sostan
Opelousas
Member since Dec 2015
717 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 7:45 am to



You can't logically dispute it.
Posted by rockytop627
Member since Jan 2014
10041 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:38 am to
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You can't logically dispute it.


I don't know what you're referring to, because I haven't read any of it. (And I downvoted all of it)

But assuming you're still attempting to make the same argument you were before, then we all know you're way way way off. Whether your anus is sore about it or not, Barnett is a top 3 DE in the SEC. I won't argue about it. I'll just continue not reading and downvoting
This post was edited on 1/28/16 at 8:40 am
Posted by Opelousas Sostan
Opelousas
Member since Dec 2015
717 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:46 am to




Not top 3.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:50 am to
The best pair will be Allen and Hand.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 9:03 am to
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The best pair will be Allen and Hand.




Agree.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43810 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 9:23 am to
There's going to be some good DE play in the SEC this year.

-Allen/Hand/Williams at Bama.
-Garrett and Hall at aTm.
-Neal and Key at LSU.
-Barnett at UT.
-Haynes at OM. (Probably the least known double digit sack guy from last year)
-Jefferson at UF.
-Lawson at AU, if he can stay healthy.
This post was edited on 1/28/16 at 9:28 am
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
69901 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 9:31 am to
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I recently saw where Hand bench pressed 225 lb (NFL combine stand wt.) 42 reps...that's 5 more reps than anyone has ever done at the combine..and he'll be a Jr.




Good God


I think Kahlil McKenzie did 32 reps in his senior year of high school, don't know what he's doing now
Posted by rockytop627
Member since Jan 2014
10041 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 2:57 pm to
Haven't you noticed he doesn't care about facts. He care about trying to fabricate bullshite to support his outlandish claims that every living breathing thing under the sun is a better DE than Barnett.
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