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re: Who is more universally disliked by tRant: Manziel, McCarron, Cam?

Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:09 am to
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:09 am to
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As I previously stated, the AU booster would be the cheater.


Why is the player the one suspended?
Posted by KennesawTiger
In your head
Member since Dec 2006
6870 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:13 am to
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Do me a favor. I need you to find the nearest scrabble set, get all of the pieces with letters on them, and eat them all. Then, find the strongest laxatives that you can and consume them. Then, when you've shat out a bunch of scrabble letters, PM me what they say. Because that will probably make more sense than anything you will say intentionally, you illiterate SOB.


Exactly how long have you been waiting to use that one? A week? More?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64522 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:13 am to
McCarron because he was talked about as being in the same class of quarterbacks as guys like Cam and Manziel. Manziel and Cam at least earned all the praise they got. I never really disliked Manziel as a player, although his whole act and immaturity grew old pretty fast. Even as much of an attention whore as Manziel is/was, McCarron seemed like the biggest douche of the three.
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 11:16 am
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
6757 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:15 am to
Bamadoc is mad that he isn't getting the answer he wanted.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10566 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:16 am to
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Why is the player the one suspended?



Because they broke an NCAA rule...

What's your point?

If you want to discuss what an amature athlete is, we can do that, but the main point stays the same: If Cam was paid, he did not gain an unfair advantage over the others he was playing against, and is guilty of dishonesty and disobedience, not cheating.
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 11:28 am
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67052 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:16 am to
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I'm not sure what AJ has done to be considered such a douche...other than he won...a lot....so I guess that pisses rival fans off...other than a bad tattoo and Katherine Webb, I don't really see what AJ has done to be considered a douche.


All he really did was win a lot of games as an Alabama QB, that alone was enough to rustle Jimmies.

However, having that giant tattoo, dating an Auburn alum in Katherine Webb, and being touted as a Heisman Candidate despite pedestrian stats didn't help either.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64522 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:17 am to
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Also, declaring for the draft after your red-shirt sophomore year is pussy shite.


of all the things to hate him for, this is not one. he's not the only guy to ever do this, and he probably made the right choice.
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:19 am to
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Because they broke an NCAA rule...

What's your point?

If you want to discuss what an amature athelete is, we can do that, but the main point stays the same: If Cam was paid, he did not gain an unfair advantage over the others he was playing against, and is guilty of dishonesty and disobedience, not cheating


That Auburn education at work.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10566 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:21 am to
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That Auburn education at work.



And there it is..

It's been fun, thanks.
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:23 am to
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And there it is..


Me relenting that you cannot understand that paying a college player is cheating? Yes, there it is.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10566 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:26 am to
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Me relenting that you cannot understand that paying a college player is cheating?




Wow.

Well, it seems you have forgotten the parameters of the discussion, so maybe we should stop now? TIA
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64522 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:29 am to
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Me relenting that you cannot understand that paying a college player is cheating? Yes, there it is.

you're so obtuse. cam may or may not have taken money, but he did not cheat in a way that made his performance on the field any better or gave him an unfair advantage over the players he was playing against. and let's not pretend that cam is the only player that took money while in college. there are players on every team just as guilty of "cheating" as cam was.
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:31 am to
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Wow.

Well, it seems you have forgotten the parameters of the discussion, so maybe we should stop now? TIA


I'll post this again so you can re-read it. I'll remind you what you were taught in elementary school. There are no implied meanings in a dictionary. It is there to specifically spell out the definition as understood. Not a hard concept to grasp. With that said the definition is: to violate rules or regulations.

Pretty clear cut.
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 11:33 am
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:32 am to
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you're so obtuse. cam may or may not have taken money, but he did not cheat in a way that made his performance on the field any better or gave him an unfair advantage over the players he was playing against. and let's not pretend that cam is the only player that took money while in college. there are players on every team just as guilty of "cheating" as cam was.


Very true, and if they were caught, they would be cheating as well. Whether or not I agree with whether taking money should be cheating is irrelevant. Because it is against the rules that are currently in place, it is cheating.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:34 am to
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Bamadoc is mad that he isn't getting the answer he wanted.
Typical
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30208 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:35 am to
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AJ gets hated on because he played for Bama and was very successful.
this


I don't hate any of the QB's. Cam was/is a damn good QB - he is NOT the face of the NFL, but he appears to be a pretty good guy that straightened out his life during his Juco stint.

Johnny is living the lifestyle I only wish I could live. I have zero hatred for JFF, it's always been pure jealousy that I've felt towards him. Rock on Johnny!!!
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10566 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:35 am to
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With that said the definition is: to violate rules or regulations.



No, it is not.

This is why they put sentences after definitions, so you know when to use words, to help you understand so to speak.

But I'm done here. You're deadset on staying the course of your original conclusion. There's nothing I can do about that.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:36 am to
Cam and AJ are carrying hate for their respective teams as well. Manziel achieved his notoriety all on his own.

The biggest natural douche is Johnny Football.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10566 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:37 am to
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Because it is against the rules that are currently in place, it is cheating.




So dropping below the set GPA requirements would be cheating?
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 11:38 am
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37607 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:38 am to
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and being touted as a Heisman Candidate despite pedestrian stats didn't help either.


AJ's stats were not pedestrian and he deserved to be in the Heisman conversation. Winston was the guy that year and I agree the right guy won....but AJ deserved the invite to New York and it was correct that he was considered and polled as high as he did.

....and again, there is nothing really off the field in terms of his behavior that you can criticize McCarron for......the same can't be said for Manziel and Cam
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 11:40 am
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