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re: Who is more universally disliked by tRant: Manziel, McCarron, Cam?

Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:08 am to
Posted by Gamecox20
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:08 am to
Lol bro. The people with real issues are anyone who considers Cam to be the "face of the NFL."

Like serious psychological issues that you need to see a professional about.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:16 am to
I judge how I feel about each by how much I would not want to hang out with them.

I would love to hang out with Johnny and Cam. I can guarantee I would hate AJ McCarron. Has nothing to do with Bama. Guy just rubs me the wrong way. I think it has to do with being so Mobile white trash. I know some Mobile white trash and I hate all of them
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:22 am to
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I would love to hang out with Johnny and Cam.


So you would love to hang out out with an arrogant guy that might possibly steal your electronics and an entitled prick from money that hangs with Bieber? Would you like to hang with Bieber as well?

This gives me great insight into how your mind works.
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 10:23 am
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10566 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:26 am to
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"Son, you were going 35 over the speed limit"
"But, officer I didn't hurt anyone, so I don't consider it 'speeding'!"


Is that really your logical basis for terming it "cheating"? There is a difference in breaking laws/rules, and cheating. Sorry you don't understand the difference. "If" he were paid, the AU booster would be the cheater.
Posted by beaver
The 755 Club
Member since Sep 2009
46861 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:29 am to
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quote: run by EA Sports, not the NFL. Voted on by the fans the last couple years. Besides he is the face of the NFL, I'd think he'd be a pretty easy choice. I don't think anyone besides an Auburn fan would claim that a QB that has very mixed reactions from one of the worst markets in the NFL whose team will be lucky to make the playoffs this year is the face of the NFL over Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Adrian Peterson, Calvin Johnson, etc.


Fwiw the fans had him runner up to Sherman, who is just the big name right now because of his outburst and the fact the Seahawks just won the super bowl
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10566 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:30 am to
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The fact that you think him doing those things makes him a good person. That's whats funny.


He did those things at AU, and has continued to do those things. Sure, it could all be for show, but it could also be that he actually cares. It's a laughable, fruitless discussion either way.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18497 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:30 am to
Cam and Manziel had off the field situations which clouded the view of people. Both were/are tremendous talents. McCarron played for Bama, so there lies my answer. I don't think I disliked any of the three thou. Cam was the only one LSU did not beat, but LSU only had one opportunity.
Posted by DaBama
Helena, AL
Member since Oct 2011
1630 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:33 am to
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Really? He put up phenomenal stats against the worst SEC secondary since they started letting blacks play? You don't say. Seriously, even Jordan Jefferson would have carved up that defense like a turkey.


AJ was a more than capable passer when he had to be. See 21-0 for reference.
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:34 am to
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There is a difference in breaking laws/rules, and cheating.


No there ins't. Breaking the rules is literally the definition of cheating.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10566 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:34 am to
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Cam was the only one LSU did not beat, but LSU only had one opportunity.





Yeah, LSU probably would have gotten the W the following year. AU lost key pieces that allowed Cam to take over the game. He got out at the right time. AU was a 9/10 win team even with Cam had he stayed, like A&M with Manziel.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10566 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:35 am to
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No there ins't. Breaking the rules is literally the definition of cheating.


Literally, no it's not. Tack on "to gain an unfair advantage", then you'll have your definition.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12872 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:49 am to
The only reason I don't/didn't like Cam was pure jealousy. He took himself AND his TEAM places. He's a hard guy to dislike, but since he's AU I used the jealousy to force myself.
Posted by RECConspiracy
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
2073 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:51 am to
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He did those things at AU, and has continued to do those things. Sure, it could all be for show, but it could also be that he actually cares. It's a laughable, fruitless discussion either way


McCarron asked a leukemia patient to be his flower girl, but I'm sure in your view that's all done for PR while Cam has a halo on his head.

"He visited school kids in Auburn."
"He drives a moped."

I'd be rich if I had a dollar for every time that was muttered by an Auburn fan since 2010.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10566 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:54 am to
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McCarron asked a leukemia patient to be his flower girl, but I'm sure in your view that's all done for PR while Cam has a halo on his head.


I don't know why you directed that towards me. I'm not one to judge those that do things to help others, because I do very little of it. But as long as you're sure I think it was a PR move, carry on. But I offered nothing for you to arrive at that conclusion.
Posted by parkjas2001
Gustav Fan Club: Consigliere
Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:55 am to
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McCarron asked a leukemia patient to be his flower girl, but I'm sure in your view that's all done for PR while Cam has a halo on his head.


I see internal projection.
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:56 am to
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Literally, no it's not. Tack on "to gain an unfair advantage", then you'll have your definition.


I can't believe I actually have to consult a dictionary to educate you that paying college football players is cheating in the current system. It's absurd.
There is literally no other way to explain this to you. I'm sorry that you cannot understand that if you break the rules, you are cheating and are therefore suspended.

cheat
verb (used with object)
1.
to defraud; swindle: He cheated her out of her inheritance.
2.
to deceive; influence by fraud: He cheated us into believing him a hero.
3.
to elude; deprive of something expected: He cheated the law by suicide.

verb (used without object)
4.
to practice fraud or deceit: She cheats without regrets.
5.
to violate rules or regulations: He cheats at cards.

6.
to take an examination or test in a dishonest way, as by improper access to answers.



Do me a favor.

I need you to find the nearest scrabble set, get all of the pieces with letters on them, and eat them all.

Then, find the strongest laxatives that you can and consume them.

Then, when you've shat out a bunch of scrabble letters, PM me what they say.

Because that will probably make more sense than anything you will say intentionally, you illiterate SOB.

Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10566 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:02 am to
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to violate rules or regulations: He cheats at cards.


You notice how they say "he cheats at cards"?

That is an action in which he gains an unfair advantage over others. My whole premise has been he didn't gain an unfair advantage on the field, thus he isn't a "cheater". He would have violated rules, but it wasn't an action that would have made an unlevel playing field for another.


quote:

I need you to find the nearest scrabble set, get all of the pieces with letters on them, and eat them all.

Then, find the strongest laxatives that you can and consume them.

Then, when you've shat out a bunch of scrabble letters, PM me what they say.

Because that will probably make more sense than anything you will say intentionally, you illiterate SOB.





Wow, you're mad. Don't take your lack of understanding out on me. It's not my fault you can't comprehend the concept.
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 11:05 am
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:04 am to
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That is an action in which he gains an unfair advantage over others. My whole premise has been he didn't gain an unfair advantage on the field, thus he isn't a "cheater". He would have violated rules, but it wasn't an action that would have made an unlevel playing field for another.


Paying players does give a team an unfair advantage on the field whether you want to keep using semantics or not.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37607 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:06 am to
I'm not sure what AJ has done to be considered such a douche...other than he won...a lot....so I guess that pisses rival fans off...other than a bad tattoo and Katherine Webb, I don't really see what AJ has done to be considered a douche.

he didin't get kicked out of school for being a thief, wasn't involved in a pay-for-play scandal, didn't proclaim himself to be an icon and entertainer, didn't get caught selling his autographs, wasn't posting stupid shite on social media, wasn't caught rolling up dollar bills in Vegas bathrooms, wasn't hanging out with Justin Bieber and making $$$ signs....I could go on and on....

AJ gets hated on because he played for Bama and was very successful.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10566 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:07 am to
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Paying players does give a team an unfair advantage on the field whether you want to keep using semantics or not.


As I previously stated, the AU booster would be the cheater.
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