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re: Who Here Actually Believes that Muschamp
Posted on 12/11/10 at 9:19 pm to Mister Completely
Posted on 12/11/10 at 9:19 pm to Mister Completely
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“Coach Muschamp is someone we targeted from the beginning and he is the guy we wanted,’’ Foley said. “He is the only person we met with and the only person we offered the job to.”
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lawl at the first half of that...the 2nd part is probably true
Actually, Foley's first comments on the search seemed to indicate that prior head coaching experience was not a necessity. The speed this was done would indicate that Muschamp was indeed the priority target.
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 9:20 pm to Mister Completely
1. Stoops
2. Mullen
3. Peterson
After strike 3, common down WM.
2. Mullen
3. Peterson
After strike 3, common down WM.
Posted on 12/11/10 at 9:20 pm to DvlsAdvocat
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Actually, Foley's first comments on the search seemed to indicate that prior head coaching experience was not a necessity. The speed this was done would indicate that Muschamp was indeed the priority target.
Please don't bring facts or logic into a SECR thread.
Posted on 12/11/10 at 9:22 pm to willthethrill
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nd meyer was against bringing in mullen as were a good portion of the uf boosters...
That is the stupidest statement I have seen in a while. Every UF booster I have heard wanted Mullen, why do you say this?
Posted on 12/11/10 at 9:25 pm to Mister Completely
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Muschamp to a Moo State or Louisville type program I would believe. Right now, this looks like a reach.
Really dumbass? He had a contract to be UT's next head coach and he's gonna give that up to go to Louisville? I don't fukn think so.
Posted on 12/11/10 at 9:27 pm to roadGator
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Actually, Foley's first comments on the search seemed to indicate that prior head coaching experience was not a necessity. The speed this was done would indicate that Muschamp was indeed the priority target.
Which begs the question why would you undervalue your program this way? Florida right now is a TOP 5 coaching gig. No debate about it. It's not a place for OTJ training.
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Please don't bring facts or logic into a SECR thread
So you've bought into the spin. Congratulations.
Posted on 12/11/10 at 9:28 pm to MaroonNation
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That is the stupidest statement I have seen in a while. Every UF booster I have heard wanted Mullen, why do you say this?
The Bull Gators in FL didn't want him. I'd say about 40% of the fans had him as second, third or fourth on their list of wants. He was third on mine depending on the day.
It's not really a big deal. You've got your coach. Be happy.
Posted on 12/11/10 at 9:31 pm to DvlsAdvocat
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Actually, Foley's first comments on the search seemed to indicate that prior head coaching experience was not a necessity. The speed this was done would indicate that Muschamp was indeed the priority target
Actually, Foley said it would take 2-2 1/2 weeks because targets were coaching in bowl games. Muschamp is not coaching in a bowl game.
Try and spin all you want- he was a 4th-5th choice at best. He may end up being a good hire- but he wasnt the 1st choice
Posted on 12/11/10 at 9:33 pm to roadGator
I believe Foley targeted Muschamp first and this was in the works for awhile.
Realize this... Foley knows how to find up and coming coaches. He wants a relentless worker and recruiter -- Donovan and Meyer fit the bill and so does Muschamp.
Mullen wasn't a big recruiter. Addazio was. This hire explains why Meyer is willing to stay in Gainesville to "help" out.
Realize this... Foley knows how to find up and coming coaches. He wants a relentless worker and recruiter -- Donovan and Meyer fit the bill and so does Muschamp.
Mullen wasn't a big recruiter. Addazio was. This hire explains why Meyer is willing to stay in Gainesville to "help" out.
Posted on 12/11/10 at 9:33 pm to roadGator
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The Bull Gators in FL didn't want him. I'd say about 40% of the fans had him as second, third or fourth on their list of wants. He was third on mine depending on the day
The only reason you hire Muschamp over Mullen is because you have no choice.
Good luck
Posted on 12/11/10 at 9:34 pm to crimsonsaint
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Really dumbass? He had a contract to be UT's next head coach and he's gonna give that up to go to Louisville? I don't fukn think so.
While the eloquence of your argument leaves me underwhelmed and unimpressed...
I will say that Texas locked him up this way so he wouldn't go take a HC job at another school. Mack Brown wasn't going anywhere at that time and it didn't appear he would be leaving for many years. His departure was not imminent.
When Texas locked him up, they were doing so to keep him from taking those Moo State & Louisville type jobs. Everybody thought he would be an HC at some point in the near future if it weren't for that. If not for that HCIW, I could see him building his HC resume at smaller programs to get to a UF or UT type gig. But he wasn't ready for a job that big and I don't think he's ready now.
It wasn't like he was taking over UT tomorrow.
Posted on 12/11/10 at 9:35 pm to CoonassBulldog
Did you watch Foley's press conference?
He said HC experience was not mandatory. He mentioned that he would have to respect other teams that were in bowls as well.
He followed through with both of those statements apparently.
Why so butthurt that we didn't want Mullen back? You should be happy. Hell you should be dancing if you believe 4 or 5 coaches turned us down.
He said HC experience was not mandatory. He mentioned that he would have to respect other teams that were in bowls as well.
He followed through with both of those statements apparently.
Why so butthurt that we didn't want Mullen back? You should be happy. Hell you should be dancing if you believe 4 or 5 coaches turned us down.
Posted on 12/11/10 at 9:37 pm to roadGator
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Why so butthurt that we didn't want Mullen back? You should be happy. Hell you should be dancing if you believe 4 or 5 coaches turned us down
Not butthurt in the least. I'm ecstatic. And I'm loving that the coach at Miss State turned down the Florida Gator head coaching job.
Good luck with your 5th choice
Posted on 12/11/10 at 9:39 pm to CoonassBulldog
Good for you. Believe what you want. I know it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
Not getting into a peeing match with MSU fans.
Not getting into a peeing match with MSU fans.
Posted on 12/11/10 at 9:44 pm to Mister Completely
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While the eloquence of your argument leaves me underwhelmed and unimpressed...
Sorry if I came across as a smartass but you came across that way.
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Mack Brown wasn't going anywhere at that time and it didn't appear he would be leaving for many years.
Bobby Bowden didn't want to leave but he did. Texas isn't gonna stand for too many more years like the 2010 season.
Posted on 12/11/10 at 9:44 pm to roadGator
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roadGator
Serious question...you don't feel like Foley undervalued your program? A lot of UF folks on your other message boards do.
I don't have a dog in this fight whatsoever. I just don't think Muschamp has proven himself worthy of or is ready for your program. And again, as UF's performance has shown over the last few years, it is one of the top jobs in the country.
I'm actually complimenting your team's program and wondering why some of you would be so accepting of a hire that A LOT of people, not just me, consider a stretch.
Posted on 12/11/10 at 9:49 pm to crimsonsaint
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Sorry if I came across as a smartass but you came across that way.
Nah man, my bad...I have a very dry wit but i usually try not to rub people the wrong way on purpose.
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Texas isn't gonna stand for too many more years like the 2010 season.
I don't think when UT locked up Muschamp they had any idea whatsoever that a 5-7 season would be in the near future. And Muschamp carries a lot of the blame for that. Weren't they around 79th in total defense this year?
Posted on 12/11/10 at 9:50 pm to Mister Completely
Look, it's an unexpected hire.
The positives are there. The negatives are fewer.
No one saw this coming. I wasn't sold on most of our list save for Stoops. Even he has negatives.
The can recruit. If he gets a good OC and get the fudge out of the way of the offense I think he'll be fine.
Do I want to take this chance? Not really.
I didn't want Mullen, Petrino or Petersen. If Muschamps name was on some list I'm not sure how I would have felt about it. I like his energy, youth and Def. I think recruits are going to flock to him.
I will withhold judgment on Foley until later down the road. He's really only made one big mistake during his tenure. I'll trust that he saw something in CWM that he liked.
The positives are there. The negatives are fewer.
No one saw this coming. I wasn't sold on most of our list save for Stoops. Even he has negatives.
The can recruit. If he gets a good OC and get the fudge out of the way of the offense I think he'll be fine.
Do I want to take this chance? Not really.
I didn't want Mullen, Petrino or Petersen. If Muschamps name was on some list I'm not sure how I would have felt about it. I like his energy, youth and Def. I think recruits are going to flock to him.
I will withhold judgment on Foley until later down the road. He's really only made one big mistake during his tenure. I'll trust that he saw something in CWM that he liked.
Posted on 12/11/10 at 9:53 pm to roadGator
I guess Foley could have done worse and gone after Dooley
Posted on 12/11/10 at 9:54 pm to Mister Completely
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And Muschamp carries a lot of the blame for that. Weren't they around 79th in total defense this year?
They allowed 23 points/game on defense this year. THat's not good but they wouldn't have made it to the national title game last year without him. They also only averaged 23 points/game on offense this year. That's terrible.
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