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re: Who are LSU's Front Seven?
Posted on 9/24/13 at 7:53 pm to Mrtommorrow1987
Posted on 9/24/13 at 7:53 pm to Mrtommorrow1987
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Beckwith with eventually be the starting Middle linebacker.
Just looking at the other guy's small size, I have to go with the bigger guy that can plug a hole, and go with some lankier speedier guys on the outside to cover the sweeps, screens, and TE's.
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 7:58 pm to deeprig9
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Although our tackles are a little heavier, UGA has already abandoned the idea of have the biggest meatball on the team starting at nose, and are now using the best guys, regardless of their particular body form.... with former DE Garrison Smith in the nose position, just a little over 300.
Anthony Johnson shows to be light for his position at DT but he shed 30 lbs from his freshman year after LSU Conditioning Coach determined each buffalo's best weight efficiency. He gets doubled a lot and has the agility to beat them often. The flip side is that at 294 he is amazingly quick and has greater range. He was the #1 DT in his recruiting class.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 7:59 pm to TutHillTiger
Nobody really cares about stars here man
Well, unless you're ole miss
Well, unless you're ole miss
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:03 pm to deeprig9
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Beckwith with eventually be the starting Middle linebacker.
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Just looking at the other guy's small size, I have to go with the bigger guy that can plug a hole, and go with some lankier speedier guys on the outside to cover the sweeps, screens, and TE's
We will eventually get there. Chief aint ready to turn over his defense to a true freshman with a couple of part time games under his belt in a Top Ten SEC all important matchup. He may see the field.
I would love to see Beckwith and Gurley in Big Cat Drill one on one... That's a couple of big ole boyz!
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:10 pm to deeprig9
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What I'm getting from alot of yall is that the pass rush is good, but if UGA's OL gets a decent block scheme on the front 4 and lets Gurley through, it's going to be a bloodbath?
If Gurley gets through he will have a decent run but wont take any more than 15 yards. LSU's D under Chavis are gang tackling mofos and very very rarely do RBs break away for huge runs.I have also seen our DEs and Freak run down RBs and short passes many times this season.
The only way it will be a bloodbath is if Georgia forces a lot of turnovers or a lot of 3 and outs like we saw against AU in the second half when we went conservative.
You said Gurley wasnt supposed to playing be 4 quarters against NT because he was banged up. Any word on how hes doing and if that is being carried over to this weekend.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:13 pm to GetmorewithLes
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turn over his defense to a true freshman with a couple of part time games under his belt in a Top Ten SEC all important matchup.
At some point, you've got to just let them get after it and trust their instincts... guys you recruited for a reason.
He doesn't have to be captain, but if he's the best guy for the position, you've got to get him in there and let someone else call the assignments.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:15 pm to deeprig9
The front 7 are good but we've taken a big step back IMO in that group compared to what we've seen the last 5-6 years.
They're weakest up the middle and not nearly as dominant along the front four as we've been. I think secondary run support is a little weaker as well.
A decent unit but I think the over/under is about right in this one and is the highest I can remember in recent memory for an LSU game. There's a reason for that.
They're weakest up the middle and not nearly as dominant along the front four as we've been. I think secondary run support is a little weaker as well.
A decent unit but I think the over/under is about right in this one and is the highest I can remember in recent memory for an LSU game. There's a reason for that.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:15 pm to deeprig9
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At some point, you've got to just let them get after it and trust their instincts... guys you recruited for a reason. He doesn't have to be captain, but if he's the best guy for the position, you've got to get him in there and let someone else call the assignments.
I actually agree but I don't think Chavis does yet. He may do that after this game because after this one the new guys will have experienced peeing on themselves once or twice and should be ready for the grind at MSU next week...
Oh yeah, meant to add that if you are looking for LSU's weaknesses it is being swept by speedy frickers and poor safety play. When the corners look like they were burned it turned out that the safeties gave them no support over the top. Vulnerable to the long throw.
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:17 pm to Big Lake
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You said Gurley wasnt supposed to playing be 4 quarters against NT because he was banged up. Any word on how hes doing and if that is being carried over to this weekend.
He got hurt and sat out 2 quarters against Clemson.
Played slightly banged up against Carolina, did well.
Bye Week and North Texas were supposed to be a healing period.
Turns out he had a full game against N Tex, disrupting his rest.
No rest this week, no rest Saturday.
There were times in the N Tex game I thought "Why are you doing to Gurley what Spurrier did to Lattimore?" UGA was in complete control of that game. There was no reason Gurley should have ever stepped foot on that field.
I have to think and believe that UGA coaches are trying to get his stats padded for a Heisman campaign later on, because it made no sense to have Gurley in that damn game.
I forgot what we were talking about. What was your question?
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:18 pm to deeprig9
Why you plan on pulling a Tonya Harding
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:20 pm to deeprig9
Leonard floyd is going to be a stud. Reminds me of mingo.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:20 pm to deeprig9
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At some point, you've got to just let them get after it and trust their instincts... guys you recruited for a reason
Chavis runs a pretty complex defense and he needs someone to make the checks on the field. Right now he is putting more weight in that than talent in Welter's case. I am not one to question the Chief's decisions especially when it comes to LBers.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:21 pm to LSUNV
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Why you plan on pulling a Tonya Harding
More like a Wayne Williams....
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:24 pm to deeprig9
Pancaked by second series
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:27 pm to Big Lake
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Chavis runs a pretty complex defense and he needs someone to make the checks on the field. Right now he is putting more weight in that than talent in Welter's case. I am not one to question the Chief's decisions especially when it comes to LBers.
4-3 or 4-2-5.... there's really only two positions that have to do anything different, not rocket science, it's harder getting guys on and off the field than anything else.
I personally wouldn't keep an inferior linebacker on the field for that purpose. Proper linebacker coaching would hopefully mean they know what their assignments are without being told... but it's good to have someone on the field to keep them on the same page, not sure why it has to be a guy that is an overall liability to the team.
UGA had the same problem with one of our safeties suspended for the Clemson game. The guy that was the backup is actually a senior and knows the defense backward and forward, will probably be a successful coach someday. He helped keep the youngin's together for their first college game in the secondary, but his personal game play was piss poor.
I'd rather have the better talent on the field, because you aren't tackling a chalkboard on Saturday.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:41 pm to deeprig9
quote:I doubt it, honestly. Georgia's offensive scheme seems to play better into LSU's defense than some of these spread-option attacks. I fully expect Ego and Freak to hold the interior of the line, and the DE's and OLBs to contain the edges. This defense is as fast as prior LSU defenses, and can string out any sweeps etc.
What I'm getting from alot of yall is that the pass rush is good, but if UGA's OL gets a decent block scheme on the front 4 and lets Gurley through, it's going to be a bloodbath?
Where we've had a lot of trouble this season is with inexperience and knowing gap-control on read-options. As stated, the team is fast, but they've been sucked out of position a whole lot by misdirections (chasing the QB and the RB cuts back through a hole), and then getting tentative in up-the-gut runs due to the above misdirections.
I don't see the Dawgs as a team that will run a lot of that stuff. I think it will be pretty clear where you are trying to run, and it's a matter of our defense being able to stand up to it... I think we have the best talent you've yet faced along those lines. I expect Gurley will get hit a lot, as one defender will grab him and slow him down for another 2 to hit, on most plays. Very few 1-1 tackles (but that's been lSU's MO for years).
Our pass rush hasn't yet shown to be that intense, but we've also not shown a lot of the weirder blitzes we normally use. That might change this game, look for us to go nickel and send either a nickel or a safety to force the play.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:50 pm to Scoob
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Where we've had a lot of trouble this season is with inexperience and knowing gap-control on read-options. As stated, the team is fast, but they've been sucked out of position a whole lot by misdirections (chasing the QB and the RB cuts back through a hole), and then getting tentative in up-the-gut runs due to the above misdirections.
I don't see the Dawgs as a team that will run a lot of that stuff.
The last three practice periods at UGA that were open to the media, UGA was running the option.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:54 pm to Scoob
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I think it will be pretty clear where you are trying to run, and it's a matter of our defense being able to stand up to it... I think we have the best talent you've yet faced along those lines.
I think yall are almost as good as Carolina's front 4.
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Our pass rush hasn't yet shown to be that intense, but we've also not shown a lot of the weirder blitzes we normally use. That might change this game, look for us to go nickel and send either a nickel or a safety to force the play.
I think that would work wonders against a young qb or OL, but this UGA OL and qb are veterans, and will be looking for the weird blitzes.
I agree in this sense: I think that's exactly what Grantham should do against LSU.
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 9/24/13 at 9:00 pm to Scoob
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I fully expect Ego and Freak to hold the interior of the line, and the DE's and OLBs to contain the edges.
As good as Ego and Freak are, they are two people. When 3 veteran offensive lineman decide to tangle them up for the 1.14 seconds it takes for Gurley to get by, even if they are holding and holding is on every play, only Bama gets away with it, maybe UGA gets away with some of it, and god forbid our fullback on a lead, how effective can two guys be if the middle linebacker is undersized and the other two linebackers are on the edge? I'm not saying Gurley is going to score a touchdown every time he gets the ball, but the two solid interior guys have to be backed up by a lot more.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 9:06 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I don't want to see Welter have to try and take down Gurley. 
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