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re: White Student Union formed @ AU

Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:05 pm to
Posted by TheSandman
Notasulga
Member since Nov 2010
19411 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:05 pm to
Again, do you understand the concept of negative rights? Like, at all?

You're making an argument based in a pidgin understanding of constitutional law, showing little concern with intellectually engaging the historical discussion of ius naturale from which the Bill of Rights came.
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Attack speech according to??? You? Black Lives Matter? Who?
According to the statement issued by the institution while upholding his right to free speech:
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We strongly deplore his views, which run counter to those of this institution.
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 6:15 pm
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:13 pm to
You don't understand that I don't agree with your position.

You and those of your ilk should be censored and banned from public speaking.

Sound crazy? Yes, you do.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:14 pm to
I heard the University tried to deny this man the ability to speak on campus. That is disappointing.
Posted by BamaNixon
Stumptown
Member since Nov 2010
3266 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:14 pm to
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Why would you ask that question? Because I dare to think even White people should be free to voice an opinion?


I was curious. I was wondering if you think that white people are a superior race. You don't. That's good. You obviously believe that all races are essentially the same in terms of intelligence (any way you'd like to define it). Not being a racist, you believe, for example, that, as a whole, whites have no basis to claim superiority to blacks. That's great! I just wanted to make sure. Thanks!
Posted by TheSandman
Notasulga
Member since Nov 2010
19411 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:16 pm to
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You don't understand that I don't agree with your position.
I'm suggesting that you are grossly misappropriating the First Amendment's guarantee of free speech in your spewing "but the Constitution!!111!111" everywhere, and have yet to receive a cognizant rebuttal.
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censored and banned from public speaking.
Was Auburn doing this? Did they ban him from the campus?
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 7:04 pm
Posted by TheSandman
Notasulga
Member since Nov 2010
19411 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:17 pm to
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I heard the University tried to deny this man the ability to speak on campus.
This is not true.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:19 pm to
Good.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:24 pm to
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BamaNixon

You ignored my question.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:25 pm to
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We strongly deplore his views, which run counter to those of this institution.

Tough shite, snowflakes.
Posted by LandofDixie
Member since Jul 2012
2825 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:27 pm to
Just to be clear, thinking that no race is superior to another doesn't necessarily mean a person isn't racist. That was the spirit of "seperate but equal" Jim Crow laws as well, and I think most would agree it was inherently racism codified into law. "Birds of a feather flock together" mentality that many white nationalists espouse is 100% racist.
Posted by TheSandman
Notasulga
Member since Nov 2010
19411 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:28 pm to
Posted by BamaNixon
Stumptown
Member since Nov 2010
3266 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:32 pm to
Sorry about that. I asked because I was curious. Thank you for answering directly. For what it's worth, I believe you. I believe that you are of the opinion that all races are equal in intelligence and abilities. I agree with you on that.

I also agree that Richard Spencer probably shouldn't be prevented from speaking at Auburn if he can pay the fee, even though his opinions are abject nonsense. If I lived in Alabama, I'd probably go hear him just so I could laugh at him. His views are so hilariously wrongheaded that only the most simpleminded losers could ever agree with them.
Posted by BamaNixon
Stumptown
Member since Nov 2010
3266 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:34 pm to
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Just to be clear, thinking that no race is superior to another doesn't necessarily mean a person isn't racist. That was the spirit of "seperate but equal" Jim Crow laws as well, and I think most would agree it was inherently racism codified into law. "Birds of a feather flock together" mentality that many white nationalists espouse is 100% racist.


Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't arguing that he wasn't a racist because he believed that whites aren't superior, but that he believes that whites aren't superior because he isn't a racist.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:35 pm to
So I grabbed a picture of the crowd at around 6:15 PM and a picture of two of these ANTIFA clowns donning their black attire. Most of the people are there trolling the frick out of the people who actually care.





And the two clowns donning all black:



Posted by Carolina Tide
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2013
5747 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:37 pm to
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90% of the posters here are Milo fans yet quickly turn into the snowflakes they endlessly mock after discovering a "White Student Union" is being formed simply and only because it's happening at a rival college. Every other race has their own for the same purposes so let the whites have one as well.



The only problem is that Auburn's other minority student unions actually DON'T promote racism and violence like this one is doing. I highly doubt none of the other student unions are passing out anti Semitic fliers like this one did. I also highly doubt that they are sprouting non sense about other races threatening to destroy theirs.


Auburn did the right thing by not letting this Neo- Nazi speak. Yes, it's important that you protect the first amendment and yes you want to make sure that you offer equal opportunity for everyone to excercize their right for freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. However Auburn also has to protect the rights of all of their students and if you allow someone who publicly against a LARGE percentage of your students, falculty, and alumni they it wouldn't be in your best interest as a public university to be connected to this man in any way. (Which is why I thank God everyday that this didn't happen at Alabama.)


Also how many of these posters who want to defend a person's first amendment rights were also rushing to defend the rights of that flag burner on LSU's campus a few years back? It seemed that no one minded if he wasn't allowed to come on campus. Why should the neo nazi be treated any better?
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:40 pm to
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His views are so hilariously wrongheaded that only the most simpleminded losers could ever agree with them.

Damn....he sounds like a liberal Democrat.

I am glad you agree with me that White students have a right to a White Student Union and that anyone who disagrees with it's formation must be held to the same standards as one who would disagree with a (insert minority of the month here) Student Union. Any in disagreement or protest should be branded a bitter racist, be outcast, and be seen as a pariah. Glad we have that common ground.

Now, about my question.

Would you consider yourself a bigot intolerant of any views other than your own? Serious question.
Posted by Carolina Tide
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2013
5747 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:43 pm to
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Nice bullshite tale, but conservatives have no problem with free speech. Even when they disagree.



Posted by TheSandman
Notasulga
Member since Nov 2010
19411 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:59 pm to
what's good fam?
Posted by LandofDixie
Member since Jul 2012
2825 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 7:01 pm to
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Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't arguing that he wasn't a racist because he believed that whites aren't superior, but that he believes that whites aren't superior because he isn't a racist.

No worries, I got your meaning. My response wasn't directed at you necessarily, just a general statement because I've met enough alt-right people who pat themselves on the back for thinking that believing all races are equal and never using the n-word = I'm not racist, and it's (obviously) not as simple as that.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10549 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 7:02 pm to
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The only problem is that Auburn's other minority student unions actually DON'T promote racism and violence like this one is doing. I



Do you really still believe that that this group is an Auburn student union or is affiliated with the school or student body in any way?
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