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re: Which three states have the best quality football players?
Posted on 7/9/13 at 7:56 pm to General13
Posted on 7/9/13 at 7:56 pm to General13
He asked for quality
Quantity of course are going to be the big states ie Ohio Florida Texas.
Now quality first and foremost is Texas just because the level of high school football is great from top to bottom. In terms of quality of high school football players Texas is in a class of its own.
then I would go Louisiana, Alabama Georgia.
Quantity of course are going to be the big states ie Ohio Florida Texas.
Now quality first and foremost is Texas just because the level of high school football is great from top to bottom. In terms of quality of high school football players Texas is in a class of its own.
then I would go Louisiana, Alabama Georgia.
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Posted on 7/9/13 at 7:56 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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I'd place them into tiers
Interesting. I like it. Let's see how many national champions have come out of each of these states since 2000.
Florida - 3 (UM, UFx2)
California - 1 (USC)
Georgia - 0
Texas - 1
Louisiana - 2 (LSUx2)
Alabama - 4 (AU, Bamax3)
Ohio - 1
Virginia - 0
Oklahoma is the only school to win a championship this millennium outside of the states you listed.
UGA - GOAT underachievers
Posted on 7/9/13 at 7:57 pm to wadewilson
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Doesn't Louisiana put the most players per capita into the league?
Correct, but Louisiana also has a lot more lower division schools per player than most states (and those schools recruit almost exclusively Louisiana kids) and has the least strict transfer policies for high school students in the country.
Every year a TON of players from other states that are having grade or state testing issues transfer to Louisiana public schools. Last year alone five of the state's top ten didnt move to the state until at least their junior year.
Posted on 7/9/13 at 7:58 pm to Roger Klarvin
If we're talking QB's i'll take a kid from Texas or Cali
If we're talking skill players I'll take a kid from Florida
If we're talking big uglies i'll take a kid from georgia, bama, louisiana
I'm sticking to the tiers though when talking about the laws of averages. Certain years are better for certain states. Alabama in 2008 was loaded with high end talent, georgia last year, and louisiana this year.
Florida, Texas, and California are loaded every year, but I don't think it has as much to do with being a step above as it does having a huge population. On a year in year out basis the top 5-10 players in tiers 2 and 3 stack up very well with the top 5-10 players in tier one. It's just that the states in tier one are going to be stronger 20-100
If we're talking skill players I'll take a kid from Florida
If we're talking big uglies i'll take a kid from georgia, bama, louisiana
I'm sticking to the tiers though when talking about the laws of averages. Certain years are better for certain states. Alabama in 2008 was loaded with high end talent, georgia last year, and louisiana this year.
Florida, Texas, and California are loaded every year, but I don't think it has as much to do with being a step above as it does having a huge population. On a year in year out basis the top 5-10 players in tiers 2 and 3 stack up very well with the top 5-10 players in tier one. It's just that the states in tier one are going to be stronger 20-100
Posted on 7/9/13 at 7:58 pm to FtBelvoirTiger
FL, TX, CA/GA
Posted on 7/9/13 at 7:58 pm to FtBelvoirTiger
Texas
Florida
Georgia
Florida
Georgia
Posted on 7/9/13 at 8:17 pm to FtBelvoirTiger
I would look at most D-1 and NFL players per capita, but yes, the best will also probably come from the largest populations. Just simple numbers.
However to me the question of "quality" should be considered in relation to per capita.
However to me the question of "quality" should be considered in relation to per capita.
Posted on 7/9/13 at 8:43 pm to Roger Klarvin
A "ton" is quite a stretch
La has always had talent and it's not always because of transfers. Sure, u pick one year and that makes a point?
La has always had talent and it's not always because of transfers. Sure, u pick one year and that makes a point?
Posted on 7/9/13 at 8:49 pm to lsusteve1
Per capita doesn't really mean much. He who has the most wins.
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:36 pm to FtBelvoirTiger
From an article last year.....
BY THE NUMBERS A state-by-state breakdown of Division I FBS signees per participant. Data collected from participation stats distributed by the National Federation of High School Sports and signees as reported by Division I FBS schools and the Rivals.com database.
(Top ten)
State....Signees....Players....Ratio
Florida....325....38,451....119
Georgia....165....32,088....194
Louisiana....85....18,229....214
Alabama....94....22,833....243
Hawaii....17....4,875....287
Ohio....159....47,955....302
Pennsylvania....83....26,505....319
Maryland/D.C.....50....16,191....324
Oklahoma....32....12,500...391
Utah....20....8,348....417
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BY THE NUMBERS A state-by-state breakdown of Division I FBS signees per participant. Data collected from participation stats distributed by the National Federation of High School Sports and signees as reported by Division I FBS schools and the Rivals.com database.
(Top ten)
State....Signees....Players....Ratio
Florida....325....38,451....119
Georgia....165....32,088....194
Louisiana....85....18,229....214
Alabama....94....22,833....243
Hawaii....17....4,875....287
Ohio....159....47,955....302
Pennsylvania....83....26,505....319
Maryland/D.C.....50....16,191....324
Oklahoma....32....12,500...391
Utah....20....8,348....417
LINK
Posted on 7/9/13 at 10:13 pm to jatebe
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National Federation of High School Sports
Texas High School football uses NCAA rules, not the National Federation of High School Sports rules.
The Federation may not have the right numbers for Texas since we are not a member.
I think Texas and one other small state (Massachusetts ??) are the only states that use big boy rules.
Posted on 7/9/13 at 10:35 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Correct, but Louisiana also has a lot more lower division schools per player than most states (and those schools recruit almost exclusively Louisiana kids)
What does this have to do with players in the NFL?
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Last year alone five of the state's top ten didnt move to the state until at least their junior year.
Name them
Top 10 according to 247 Comp.
1. Tre White - no
2. Kendell Beckwith - no
3. Tim Williams - not sure
4. Desean Smith - no
5. Jeryl Brazil - no
6. Josh Boutte - not sure
7. John Diarse - no
8. Rickey Jefferson - no
9. Jeremy Cutrer - not sure
10. Standish Dobard - not sure
That's 4 at most, but I know that those 4 were in Louisiana for their last two years and I kinda doubt all moved in right before their junior years. So, you are either misinformed or you just flat out lied to help your Texas propaganda, which is it?
This post was edited on 7/9/13 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 7/9/13 at 10:39 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
I agree. Certain type guys tend to come out of certain areas. Of course it changes yearly, so who really knows.
Posted on 7/9/13 at 11:12 pm to SeeeeK
[Quote]i believe Ohio is the only state with 8? or 9 div1 football programs.[/quote]
Texas has:
A&M
tu
Tech
Baylor
UTEP
SMU
TCU
Houston
UTSA
North Texas
Texas State/SWT?
Rice
Probably forgetting somebody.
Texas has:
A&M
tu
Tech
Baylor
UTEP
SMU
TCU
Houston
UTSA
North Texas
Texas State/SWT?
Rice
Probably forgetting somebody.
This post was edited on 7/9/13 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 7/9/13 at 11:14 pm to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
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Probably forgetting somebody.
Rice
Posted on 7/9/13 at 11:24 pm to Roger Klarvin
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) and has the least strict transfer policies for high school students in the country.
You're wrong. Louisiana schools have very close transfer requirements to other states, including Texas. quote:
Every year a TON of players from other states that are having grade or state testing issues transfer to Louisiana public schools. Last year alone five of the state's top ten didnt move to the state until at least their junior year.
You just went full retard. 5 of the top 10. You just pulled that out of your arse. I'm pretty sure over 90 percent of the 247 Louisiana top 30 are all life long Louisiana residents. Including ALL of the top ten players
Posted on 7/9/13 at 11:27 pm to whodidthat
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5 of the top 10. You just pulled that out of your arse. I'm pretty sure over 90 percent of the 247 Louisiana top 30 are all life long Louisiana residents. Including ALL of the top ten players
Such BS that he spouted off as fact, and I doubt we see him in this thread again.
This post was edited on 7/9/13 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 7/9/13 at 11:29 pm to BRUNNIN4
Posted on 7/10/13 at 9:46 am to Roger Klarvin
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Every year a TON of players from other states that are having grade or state testing issues transfer to Louisiana public schools. Last year alone five of the state's top ten didnt move to the state until at least their junior year.
pffft..........sure
And I'm talking about the NFL. Fun fact, more Louisiana quarterbacks have won superbowls than from any other state.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 9:47 am to BRUNNIN4
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Such BS that he spouted off as fact, and I doubt we see him in this thread again.
Klarvin is an idiot.
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