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Posted on 8/22/16 at 3:29 pm to Pettifogger
Nicer homes/standard of living compared to Auburn 
Posted on 8/22/16 at 3:29 pm to rockiee
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You are confusing fan bases with the actual teams/coaches. Teams can do everything possible to win while at the same time have the fan base being continent with the results. The problem is when you show possible potential than most of the fan base will expect that and start to get unrealistic at times.
I'm confusing nothing. I am perhaps struggling to articulate my point, which is essentially that I reject the entire premise of this thread, and deny the existence of a pre-determined conference hierarchy wherein each team and it's fans must know their place.
My secondary point would be to persuade the rest of you to join me in condemning this thread premise rather than bicker about where we stand within this made-up hierarchy and if it's consistent with historical performance.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 3:30 pm to Tigerfan56
Really all of the non-Big 6 schools do a pretty good job of accepting their station and are happy with any coach who can keep them competitive and average around 8 games a season. A&M is an obvious exception, but they are basically a Big 6 school by every criteria other than having won the SEC. They are a huge school with a 100k stadium in a massive state. They should expect to compete for conference and national titles. Arkansas is the only one I see with unreasonable expectations. They ran off the best coach they have had in the modern era because they wanted national titles instead of SEC West titles. Houston Nutt won 2 West titles.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 3:30 pm to Pettifogger
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You'll have to tell me more about my hyperbole about A&M. I shite talk A&M a lot, but I don't compare Auburn to A&M very often, so I'm not sure what the angle is.
Very simple- you act like you know all this shite about us when it's obvious you don't know shite about us.
Talking shite about us is normal and expected. We are weird and gay. But when you act like an expert on us and then say something 100% wrong it kinda makes me question your sanity.
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A&M is the bigger, better academic, richer school. Auburn is the better football program and probably the less weird, more fun school.
I don't know how you judge how fun a school is, but I get it you have some level of respect for us.
Which makes the hyperbole like in this thread so weird.
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I do think A&M's appeal for Bama's attention is ridiculous just because it doesn't make any sense.
It makes PERFECT sense if you would think about it for two seconds. The problem is you are too biased to see the truth.
Bama has given us more than any program in college football. In total:
-we need the SEC brand to recruit well because we fricked our brand in the 2000's, and half (or more) of the reason people respect that SEC brand is because Bama
-we needed a better yardstick to measure ourselves because the old orange one was way overrated. Bama is a perfect yardstick. Our facilities were us trying to copy theirs.
-we needed someone to beat up our bully and save us from other decade of tyranny from that bully. Bama ended Mack Brown's program almost singlehandedly.
-we needed a way to monetize our Tier 3 money to not fall behind in a state with something like the LHN. Bama turning down a Bama Network so we call all have a SEC Network is what made that possible.
-we needed a way to make a splash in the SEC for fundraising purposes. A win over Bama did that.
-we needed national exposure to improve our recruiting, all those Texans tuning in to watching them play us does that
Finally we needed a program that could build up the prestige of the SEC in our state without really harming us, and Bama did that. I would much rather Bama win another national title than say LSU or Auburn because they have already won so many one more doesn't really matter. You can't do any better than the top class ever year, so they are the PERFECT vessel for SEC brand improvement because their victories don't make our lives worse- they are like a sponge that can't soak up any more water.
It all makes sense if you actually knew as much about us as you claim to know.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 3:36 pm to cardboardboxer
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Talking shite about us is normal and expected. We are weird and gay. But when you act like an expert on us and then say something 100% wrong it kinda makes me question your sanity.
Shocking that someone associated with the institution in question believes that someone critical of the institution doesn't know what they're talking about. I'm not an expert on A&M. I'm familiar with A&M and Texas generally and seek to use that to my advantage in interacting with A&M fans.
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It all makes sense if you actually knew as much about us as you claim to know.
All your points about Bama are fine. I could list similar points about how A&M is good for Auburn's bottom line or some other analysis. The difference, of course, being that you won't catch me groveling at the feet of A&M or some other SEC school, begging their shittiest posters for attention on a CFB message board. That's the weird part. That may or may not describe you, but it absolutely describes some of your compadres on here.
And just so we're clear, I really don't care that you guys do it. It's for fun. I'd rather y'all keep doing it so AU and LSU fans can keep disparaging you for it than see you actually change your position on Alabama. In that case, I'd have to dig deeper to find some other shite talking vehicle to use.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 3:39 pm to Pettifogger
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you won't catch me groveling at the feet of A&M or some other SEC school, begging their shittiest posters for attention on a CFB message board. That's the weird part. That may or may not describe you, but it absolutely describes some of your compadres on here.
I know who you're talking about...
This post was edited on 8/22/16 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 8/22/16 at 3:42 pm to Number 31
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My secondary point would be to persuade the rest of you to join me in condemning this thread premise rather than bicker about where we stand within this made-up hierarchy and if it's consistent with historical performance.
At the end of the day, like most threads on here, it serves no purpose but provides some talking points. I think fan expectations can hurt or help a program though and is worth to talk about. Many coaches have been fired because of unrealistic fan bases and many coaches have stayed to long. An interesting discussion if taken seriously and I think it has been for most part.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 3:47 pm to Pettifogger
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I'm not an expert on A&M. I'm familiar with A&M and Texas generally
Based on what? When you went to A&M? When you lived in Texas? When you went to our games without Auburn being there?
I bet the answers are: nope, no and nope.
I bet your answer actually is: because I read a lot about yall on Shaggytexas
Which is basically my point.
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The difference, of course, being that you won't catch me groveling at the feet of A&M or some other SEC school, begging their shittiest posters for attention on a CFB message board. That's the weird part.
Yeah, ok that is weird. You spend enough time here and you learn some of the best fans in the SEC are Bama fans, and some of the worst fans in the SEC are Bama fans.
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In that case, I'd have to dig deeper to find some other shite talking vehicle to use.
Or maybe we can just talk about football like civilized people, I don't know.
A&M and Auburn fans have no reason to go after each other. We play yearly but we target different recruits and we have different priorities. If anything yall provide a great role model to us as the "best little bro" and we admire that.
I don't get the need for hostility, like we have to be assholes just to be assholes or something.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 3:49 pm to cardboardboxer
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The difference, of course, being that you won't catch me groveling at the feet of A&M or some other SEC school, begging their shittiest posters for attention on a CFB message board. That's the weird part.
Yeah, ok that is weird.
He's not talking about you. He's referring to a specific individual from each respective fanbase and should've just called them out by name.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 3:51 pm to cardboardboxer
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Based on what? When you went to A&M? When you lived in Texas? When you went to our games without Auburn being there?
I bet the answers are: nope, no and nope.
I bet your answer actually is: because I read a lot about yall on Shaggytexas
Which is basically my point.
Basically, visit Texas often, lots of A&M family, multiple trips to CS without AU being there. But no, I've never lived in Texas. Perhaps most importantly, I listened to a lot of Robert Earl Keen.
I've never been to any UT site unless it was linked for the cartoons about A&M FWIW.
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I don't get the need for hostility, like we have to be assholes just to be assholes or something.
Don't get too serious on me, I don't actually hate A&M. I think y'all are weird and your Bama stuff is weird. I root for you against LSU and Bama until it becomes clear you're going to lose, in which case, I switch to hoping they destroy you just for the melts on this board.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 3:52 pm to Number 31
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and should've just called them out by name.
Eh, I am glad he didn't. This forum already reads like some people need a shopping cart full of tampons.
Its cool.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 3:54 pm to Pettifogger
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I've never been to any UT site unless it was linked for the cartoons about A&M FWIW.
My respect for you just raised some, and you were already top 5 on here for me.
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I root for you against LSU and Bama until it becomes clear you're going to lose, in which case, I switch to hoping they destroy you just for the melts on this board.
Fair enough, I think we can all agree that is the best rooting strategy.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 3:56 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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reading comprehension is your friend
I read it just fine?
Posted on 8/22/16 at 4:04 pm to Number 31
quote:I LOVE this thread!
I reject the entire premise of this thread
Posted on 8/22/16 at 4:05 pm to RT1941
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I LOVE this thread!
I can see why a Bama fan would embrace this concept...
Posted on 8/22/16 at 4:05 pm to RT1941
I accept our role as a top ten team this year
Posted on 8/22/16 at 4:09 pm to psk_Vol
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I accept our role as a top ten team this year
Of the two SEC teams who are wildly overrated this year, you're my favorite
Posted on 8/22/16 at 4:31 pm to Tigerfan56
Vandy seems to understand its place better then anyone. Kentucky for the most part knows it's roll.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 4:49 pm to Tigerfan56
good post and accurate
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