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re: Which Freshmen class has been most impressive so far?

Posted on 9/30/14 at 6:06 am to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 6:06 am to
RSJ, Speedy, Myles Garrett, Armani Watts, Zay Henderson, Nick Harvey, Qualen Cunningham have all been far more impressive than whatever Alabama has thrown out there.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 6:09 am
Posted by Roscoe
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:06 am to
UGa
UT
LSU

Based on performance to date. LSUs freshman class really hasn't done anything of significance against the two teams they played with a pulse. Stats against SHS and NMState are really irrelevant when everyone puts big numbers against those guys. LSUs class could move up with solid contributing performances in the upcoming SEC slate. UGa and UTs frosh have already shown their contributions against top 25 opponents and right now get the nod.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:53 am to
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Isaiah McKenzie has 2 punt returns for touchdowns...and almost a 3rd


Uh, are you sure? I thought he only had one returned for a TD...
Posted by coachcrisp
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:58 am to
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I'm as full of Bama as Tommy Lewis....
If so, you don't need to come anywhere near a stadium that Alabama's playing in on game day.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:10 am to
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UGa and UTs frosh have already shown their contributions against top 25 opponents and right now get the nod.


Name a team that is in the top 25 that UGA has played?

I'll hang up and listen.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:40 am to
The only thing that can help bama is Louisiana guys
Posted by coachcrisp
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:45 am to
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RSJ, Speedy, Myles Garrett, Armani Watts, Zay Henderson, Nick Harvey, Qualen Cunningham have all been far more impressive than whatever Alabama has thrown out there.
It's really nice to have the amount of depth that allows a team to not have to "throw" freshmen out there.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:46 am to
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Dupree- Quickly becoming #1 WR, although yet to start.


Dupre started against NMST, fwiw.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:50 am to
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He didn't say anything about stats....they look a LOT better than LF.


Dude what? No they don't.

More than half of Michel's yards came in one game against Troy. Meanwhile, Chubb had a great first game (70 yards against Clemson) but has kind of disappeared after that (11 caries for 32 yards against Tennessee). Neither of these guys has received more than 25 carries on the year. Both of these guys have stat lines that are bolstered by a single game.

LF has almost 60 carries on the year and is LSU's leading rusher. He is better than Michel and Chubb by a lot.

Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:51 am to
Every fanbase thinks they have the best freshman, or the freshman who have performed the best up until this point, so there's really no point in arguing that. What I do know is that Jalen Hurd, Josh Malone, Todd Kelly, and Derek Barnett are going to be very, very, very good football players for us.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:52 am to
What's truly crazy about that is they're all Tennessee natives.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33936 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:53 am to
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UGa and UTs frosh have already shown their contributions against top 25 opponents and right now get the nod.


Sony Michel is riding a 155 yard performance against Troy. He hasn't done anything in the other games (second highest yard total = 33 yards against Clemson).

Nick Chubb also had one good game (against Clemson, when he ran for 70 yards). But 47 of his 70 yards in that game CAME ON A SINGLE RUN.

So let's review: Michel has a good game against Troy, and Chubb is living off a single 47-yard run. And yet, somehow both of these guys are better than Fournette, who is LSU's leading rusher.

Get the frick out with this bullshite.
Posted by TxTiger82
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:55 am to
I honestly haven't watched enough of UT this year to notice the guys not named Hurd, so I can't comment on Tennessee.

Hurd seems like a workhorse, and he is one of two freshmen RBs in the league with more yards than Fournette. His ypc is relatively low, though (Hurd: 4.56, Fournette: 5.75).
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:58 am to
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His ypc is relatively low, though (Hurd: 4.56, Fournette: 5.75


no doubt.

a lot of that has to do with us already having played Oklahoma and UGA, and him running behind an O-line featuring 5 brand new starters and 2 true freshman.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:58 am to
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LF has almost 60 carries on the year and is LSU's leading rusher. He is better than Michel and Chubb by a lot.

There's a pretty big variable that Fournette doesn't have in front of him on the depth chart. That variable wears number 3 for UGA.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33936 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:01 am to
Michel hasn't done shite against a good opponent. Chubb is living off a single run. You can't really dispute this.

You Georgia guys started pumping up these players too early, and now they are pulling the magic disappearing act.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:01 am to
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Every fanbase thinks they have the best freshman, or the freshman who have performed the best up until this point, so there's really no point in arguing that. What I do know is that Jalen Hurd, Josh Malone, Todd Kelly, Derek Barnett and Ethan Wolf are going to be very, very, very good football players for us.



FIFY...
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:02 am to
Yep, totally forgot about Wolf. He's been outstanding so far this season.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:05 am to
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Michel hasn't done shite against a good opponent.

Wrong. He has been extremely effective in limited touches. Had a long touchdown catch against USCe and has been effective in every game he has played. He's averaging like 10 ypc for goodness sake.
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Chubb is living off a single run. You can't really dispute this.

Wrong again. He just had a TD catch against UT, was very good against USCe, and had two big-time runs against Clemson.

They just don't get as many touches with Gurley there. Any statistical comparison is very flawed.
Posted by ugastudent
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:06 am to
Michel and Chubb each have exactly half of Fournette's 56 carries. Michel has 23 carries for 223 yards and Chubb has 23 carries for 146 yards. When each player has exactly half of Fournette's carries it is not crazy to combine them. So in 56 carries UGA's freshmen have 369 yards and 4 tds. They also add 6 receptions for 96 yards and 2 more tds. Sorry that our freshmen rb's are more productive with the same amount of touches.


And neither have done the Heisman pose against Sam Houston State. That's Gurley's trophy.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 9:07 am
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