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re: Which Coach Would You Rather Have In A Big Game? Les Miles, or Mark Richt

Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:49 pm to
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
3158 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:49 pm to
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Richt, he has maintained a similar winning percentage but over a longer period of time and has consistently had less talent.


Very Obvious that you do not follow recruiting. At All. Talent level for both programs is virtually the same.

Team Recruiting Rankings:
2002: UGA 2, LSU 15
2003: UGA 6, LSU 1
2004: UGA 9, LSU 2
2005: UGA 10,LSU 22
2006: UGA 4, LSU 7
2007: UGA 9, LSU 4
2008: UGA 7, LSU 11
2009: UGA 6, LSU 2
2010: UGA 15,LSU 6
2011: UGA 5, LSU 6
2012: UGA 12,LSU 18

AVG: UGA 7.7, LSU 8.0
Posted by KennesawTiger
In your head
Member since Dec 2006
6870 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:50 pm to
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Very Obvious that you do not follow recruiting. At All. Talent level for both programs is virtually the same.


Don't bring facts in here. This is no place for such trivialities.

Les is just really really lucky. End of story.
Posted by 11Will44
Member since Feb 2013
378 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:52 pm to
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Very Obvious that you do not follow recruiting. At All. Talent level for both programs is virtually the same.


Which makes my thread awesome.
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
25659 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:52 pm to
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Forgive me, I forget that LSU fans like to selectively play dumb about their talent level when someone questions Miles' coaching. What's impressive though is that you can then turn around and talk about how all your backups are future AAs in the threads questioning their ability to replace players next year. I guess when it's your site you can have your corndogs and eat them too.



Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:54 pm to
quote:

Very Obvious that you do not follow recruiting. At All. Talent level for both programs is virtually the same.

Team Recruiting Rankings:
2002: UGA 2, LSU 15
2003: UGA 6, LSU 1
2004: UGA 9, LSU 2
2005: UGA 10,LSU 22
2006: UGA 4, LSU 7
2007: UGA 9, LSU 4
2008: UGA 7, LSU 11
2009: UGA 6, LSU 2
2010: UGA 15,LSU 6
2011: UGA 5, LSU 6
2012: UGA 12,LSU 18

AVG: UGA 7.7, LSU 8.0

Posted by JStanDawgFan
Evans, Ga
Member since Jul 2012
3987 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:55 pm to
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dallasga6



Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
25659 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:56 pm to
h/t to DGD...
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:57 pm to
quote:

Very Obvious that you do not follow recruiting. At All. Talent level for both programs is virtually the same.

Team Recruiting Rankings:
2002: UGA 2, LSU 15
2003: UGA 6, LSU 1
2004: UGA 9, LSU 2
2005: UGA 10,LSU 22
2006: UGA 4, LSU 7
2007: UGA 9, LSU 4
2008: UGA 7, LSU 11
2009: UGA 6, LSU 2
2010: UGA 15,LSU 6
2011: UGA 5, LSU 6
2012: UGA 12,LSU 18

AVG: UGA 7.7, LSU 8.0


Except the true metric is NFL talent produced. LSU has more current players in the NFL, more current starters, more first and second round picks among those players and more pro-bowls.

Georgia recruits similarly, but the caliber of athletes produced is not identical. Attribute that to S&C, system, whatever, but the fact is that LSU has produced more top-end talent recently than Georgia. Miles isnt at a talent disadvantage to anyone but Saban.
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
21604 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:58 pm to
So, they both average #8 in annual recruiting. Cool.
Posted by 11Will44
Member since Feb 2013
378 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:59 pm to
I really like that gif.
Posted by KennesawTiger
In your head
Member since Dec 2006
6870 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 6:03 pm to
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Except the true metric is NFL talent produced. LSU has more current players in the NFL, more current starters, more first and second round picks among those players and more pro-bowls. Georgia recruits similarly, but the caliber of athletes produced is not identical. Attribute that to S&C, system, whatever, but the fact is that LSU has produced more top-end talent recently than Georgia. Miles isnt at a talent disadvantage to anyone but Saban.


So just so we're clear, you are basically applauding LSU's coaching staff for developing these great players for the NFL and dressing down Miles' coaching ability in the same breath.

OK I get it...
Posted by chalupa
Member since Jan 2011
6755 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 6:11 pm to
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I guess when it's your site you can have your corndogs and eat them too.


About damn time someone gets it.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 6:12 pm to
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So just so we're clear, you are basically applauding LSU's coaching staff for developing these great players for the NFL and dressing down Miles' coaching ability in the same breath.


Yep. It happens all the time. Player development =/ Gameday coaching ability, for many reasons. The head coach has less day to day impact on any one player than position coaches, S&C coaches and quality control guys. Gameday is largely on the coach, though.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41876 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 6:21 pm to
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Someone could make a really good 30 for 30 on him one day if they took the time to really show the craziness of his success at LSU.


And with the 2013, 14 and 15 talent he's gonna bring in.....get ready for some additional craziness.

Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33936 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 6:22 pm to
Klarvin's just mad that A&M is 0-2 against Les. Deal with it, bro.

Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48715 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 6:22 pm to
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how r ya Sorantable?

I'm doing swell, good sir
Posted by KennesawTiger
In your head
Member since Dec 2006
6870 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 6:30 pm to
quote:

The head coach has less day to day impact on any one player than position coaches, S&C coaches and quality control guys.


Yeah. I love how coaching staffs hire themselves like that.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118971 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

Have In A Big Game? Les Miles, or Mark Richt


Mark Stoops
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22422 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 7:09 pm to
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Roger Klarvin


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This post was edited on 3/7/13 at 7:10 pm
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75404 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 7:23 pm to
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