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re: Where does Saban rank as a game day coach in the sec?

Posted on 8/27/14 at 7:59 am to
Posted by Patton
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Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 8:00 am to
The guy who spells Texas "Tejas" just called me a kid.


On a scale of 1 to literally, I can't even.
Posted by Rebman601
Tejas
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 8:00 am to


I'm laughing at you laughing at me
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 8:01 am to
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Spurrier, Gus, les , sumlin With sabans talent, these guys as good or better



You'll get a ton of bites from this... I'm setting the bar at 10 pages...
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
40787 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 8:02 am to
Spurrier is the only one that makes any sense a all.


How the hell did Sumlin make your list?


Posted by 2007lsuno1
Marietta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 8:02 am to
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Posted by Rebman601
Tejas
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 8:06 am to
Actually I think that sumlin would destroy Saban if they faced off with equal talent.

Think about it, Saban continually has the most talented team in the country, and he continually loses games to teams with lesser talent. He's still a great coach, but I'd take several others as a game day coach

Posted by Rebman601
Tejas
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 8:08 am to
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The guy who spells Texas "Tejas" just called me a kid. On a scale of 1 to literally, I can't even.


You made fun of how a word was spelled, I bet you're awesome to hang out with, kid...
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 8:11 am to



Can't win every single game.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 8:14 am to
Every coach has his strengths and weaknesses. What matters is their record. I'd say Saban has earned his keep.

You're not insinuating that he is less of a coach, are you? Do you think Ole Miss would hire him if they could?
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 8:14 am to
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Saban gets the best players in the country. I give him credit for that, but he routinely loses to teams that are less talented.


If by routinely you mean he has lost 9 times total in 6 years, you are a confused man. His losses vs. Florida in 08, at LSU, at USC, and vs. Auburn in 10, vs. LSU in 11, and against one of the best quarterback to play college football vs. A&M in 12.

So that leaves 3 losses to teams with noticeably less talent in 6 years. Any program would be thrilled with that. There is potentially one coach better in game and that is Spurrier. Malzahn hasn't coached long enough for me to crown him as a better in-game coach. Anybody can have one great/fortunate season.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 8:16 am to
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he routinely loses


Really?

I wish Georgia routinely lost like Bama.
Posted by jbond
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2012
4938 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 8:18 am to
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Spurrier, Gus, les , sumlin

Spurrier-- only one that has an argument.

Gus-- based on one season with two losses and a couple lucky breaks (tipped pass, Johnny horse collar)?

Les-- so he can lose to Ole Miss with LSU talent but still be a better gameday coach? K.

Sumlin-- finished 4th in the west with Heisman winner and best receiver in the nation and has never won anything of note.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 8:18 am to
I'll trade a loss to unranked Tennessee to Top 2 Auburn anyday.


I honestly can't remember who was ranked #1 in that game and don't feel like taking less than a minute to find out.


ETA: Or was FSU ranked #1? frick man
This post was edited on 8/27/14 at 8:19 am
Posted by mikrit54
Robeline
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 8:20 am to
Number 2 behind Lou Holtz.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 8:20 am to
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Think about it, Saban continually has the most talented team in the country, and he continually loses games to teams with lesser talent. He's still a great coach, but I'd take several others as a game day coach


He has routinely lost only 9 games in the last six years.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 8:24 am to
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If by routinely you mean he has lost 9 times total in 6 years, you are a confused man. His losses vs. Florida in 08, at LSU, at USC, and vs. Auburn in 10, vs. LSU in 11, and against one of the best quarterback to play college football vs. A&M in 12.


And to be even more specific, three of those six were against Heisman winners. Another was against a drunk who just happened to play the game of his life.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 8:24 am to
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Number 2 behind Lou Holtz.


Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 8:24 am to
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Spurrier, Gus, les , sumlin



Don't agree. I think part of it is Saban's system and attitude towards coaching, which is different from both gameday coaching and recruiting, IMO.

So I do think all 4 of those may be better "concoct a gameplan" coaches, or day of game coaches, I don't think they'd all do better with Saban's teams.
Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 8:27 am to
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Saban gets the best players in the country. I give him credit for that, but he routinely loses to teams that are less talented.



Really?

Outside of the 6 losses in his first year, what teams with less talent did he lose to?

2010 - Losses to #19 SCar, #10 LSU #2 Auburn

2011 - Loss to #2 LSU

2012 - Loss to #15 TAMU

2013 - Losses TO #4 Auburn, Loss to #11 Oklahoma


I'll give you SCar and TAMU. The other losses were to teams with equal to better talent as far as Bama. Other teams do recruit ya kmow
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