re: When Lane Kiffin gets next HC shot; will he be considered a "Saban Tree" coach?

Lane Kiffin systematically burned down trees at every stop he made and all but ruined his coaching career. The fruit from the Pete Carroll/Norm Chow tree was bitter, hard and green.

Saban gave him a shot to rehabilitate his career when no one would touch him with a 10' pole.

"IF" Lane learns from one of the best in the business he may get another opportunity to run his own show again. "IF" he conducts himself in a mature fashion and can field a successful program consistently, then IMO the fruit will be from the Saban tree as it will be seasoned, mature and productive.

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o me Kiffin would think of Pete Carroll wouldn't he? He cut his teeth out there with Carroll and Norm Chow not with Nick Saban. He's taken what Norm taught him and brought it to Alabama not the other way around. He isn't using what Saban taught him.

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I damn sure bet he will take what he has learned from Saban about how to run a successful football program with him to his next job. It might or might not translate to similar results, but you are dumb if you don't think Kiffin has been taking notes on Saban's process. Obviously what he learned from Pete on how to be a HC didn't workout that well.

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I have to think Kiffin will be a very good head coach his next stint.

We all know he can recruit and coach offense, but I feel he will absorb a lot from Saban about how to run a program and build a defense. Those are two areas he was pretty bad at and Saban is the absolute best at.

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His dad is a legendary DC and while some might consider it heresy to say this Monte Kiffin is far more respected than Saban as a defensive mind and that's no knock against Saban. Monte Kiffin is on a whole other level. He is the father of the "The Tampa Cover 2" and his defensive concepts are some of the most influential and widely adopted in all of football -- both college and the NFL.

Monte is the reason UT hired Lane in the first place and we paid Monte the highest assistant salary in all of CFB. While I'm sure he might've picked up some tips from Saban there's no one he could've learned from who is better than his dad.

I think if you see a significant change in Kiffins maturity and the way he handles himself in his next gig will and should be attributed to Saban's mentoring.

Kiffin could be a successful coach learning Saban's process. He can recruit and is pretty good on X's and O's. He was just untamed in his process.

I think the fact Kiffin has remained for 3 years after this season shows he may have grown a lot.

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I didn't say scheme a defense, I said build a defense.

I'm sure he learned some Tampa 2 from his dad, but he learned what kind of bodies/players work the best in college football from Saban.

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I didn't say scheme a defense, I said build a defense.

I'm sure he learned some Tampa 2 from his dad, but he learned what kind of bodies/players work the best in college football from Saban.

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Maybe but he would've learned that from his father as well and under Carrol. If he learns anything from Saban it needs to be maturity, self-discipline, and work ethic -- even how to be a boss and lead others. Those things have been his Achilles' heel rather than a lack of football knowledge.

Kiffin may learn to be a CEO under Saban. He was already a good play caller. His dad was a good defensive coordinator with the right players.

He'll be a part of the tree, but every good head coach has to be their own man at some point. Then they can plant their own tree.

Let the games begin. PLEASE!

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If he learns anything from Saban it needs to be maturity, self-discipline, and work ethic -- even how to be a boss and lead others. Those things have been his Achilles' heel rather than a lack of football knowledge.

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Good answer.

Absolutely