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re: When Bama beats the brakes off Florida it won't be any of my business...

Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:27 am to
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:27 am to
That some of yall think Sims is actually the top QB in the SEC/NCAA, by using a stat that means nothing at this point
Posted by gatordmb89
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:28 am to
Yeah, it's hard to judge Sims based on what I've seen. Certainly not near as bad as people made him out to be, but still far from an AJ McCarron.
Posted by elit4ce05
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:30 am to
You went through all that to make that point? Where was that claim made. What was said is?

quote:

Bama's passing game isn't strong enough for Saban to rely on it.


The link clearly shows that Sims has one of the highest completion percentages. If that can't relied on, there are many below him that can't be relied on as well.

Please try to keep up.
Posted by gatordmb89
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:33 am to
Yeah, Driskel has a high comp % as well, but threw at least 6bubble screens in gm 1. I know for a fact Sims has thrown a TON of bubble screens. Those are extremely high % throws, and I have only seen corners come up and actually challenge Bama WR's a few times. That will change as Bama plays better D's.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:35 am to
quote:

The link clearly shows that Sims has one of the highest completion percentages.


which means absolutely nothing at this point.


quote:

Please try to keep up.


Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:35 am to
JD is at 69% with 0 int but is still terrible according to the rant
Posted by elposter
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:36 am to
quote:

That some of yall think Sims is actually the top QB in the SEC/NCAA


Link?

Just because someone posts a stat showing that Sims has a very high completion percentage and passer rating, doesn't come close to supporting your contention that anyone thinks he is the top QB in the SEC/NCAA.

Such a straw man argument. Pretty typical though.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:36 am to
quote:

That some of yall think Sims is actually the top QB in the SEC/NCAA


link?
Posted by MrAUTigers
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:38 am to
I think UF will give bama all they want....and then some.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:38 am to
quote:

Just because someone posts a stat showing that Sims has a very high completion percentage and passer rating, doesn't come close to supporting your contention that anyone thinks he is the top QB in the SEC/NCAA.


Well it has been used as a means to argue that he is several times now.

quote:

Such a straw man argument


I dont think you know what this means
Posted by elit4ce05
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:39 am to
Yet someone can just throw aout the comment that he can't be relied on and that carries more weight than what he has actually done on the field. Makes sense.

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which means absolutely nothing at this point.


Link is from the same site you posted....so...

Actually completion percentage is important in the passing game, but OK.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:40 am to
quote:

gatordmb89


Let's take a step back and watch the Aubies take care of this.
This post was edited on 9/9/14 at 10:42 am
Posted by elposter
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:41 am to
quote:

Well it has been used as a means to argue that he is several times now.


Then I guess you can point to just one instance where someone has argued he is the top QB in the SEC/NCAA?

quote:

Such a straw man argument


I dont think you know what this means


I know exactly what it means. You present the straw man argument that some Bama fans believe Sims is the top QB in the SEC/NCAA (which no Bama fan actually believes - thus it is a straw man argument) and then argue against it. Pretty typical for you.

Posted by MrAUTigers
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:41 am to
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Actually completion percentage is important in the passing game,


I could complete 75% throwing screens all day long. That will not consistently work against a good D......which UF has.
Posted by lsutothetop
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:42 am to
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Thanks man, I'm a frog though so don't expect perfection.

Posted by bigDgator
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:43 am to
You are right, it is none of your business.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:44 am to
quote:

Actually completion percentage is important in the passing game, but OK.


not when you have thrown only a few passes in the season. Lets play your game. So do you think Onterio Mccalleb was a better RB than Trent Richardson? using your logic he was much better.


Its pretty comical that many of yall are using one of the most meaningless stats for QB's at this point to proclaim his worth
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:44 am to
your shtick has grown tiresome
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:45 am to
quote:

Then I guess you can point to just one instance where someone has argued he is the top QB in the SEC/NCAA?


So if I showed you a thread were a bama fan used this stat and said he was top in the NCAA to proclaim his worth, would that suffice?

quote:

I know exactly what it means. You present the straw man argument that some Bama fans believe Sims is the top QB in the SEC/NCAA (which no Bama fan actually believes - thus it is a straw man argument) and then argue against it. Pretty typical for you.


again, I dont think you know what it means or how to use it
Posted by elposter
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:47 am to
quote:

I could complete 75% throwing screens all day long.


You and the rest of us would likely trip over our own feet as soon as the ball was snapped in a division 1 college game.

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That will not consistently work against a good D......which UF has.


Agreed. I think Alabama will turn to the running game, which should be pretty formidable. Also expect more passes to RBs, slot receivers, and TEs that are matched up with LBs and safeties, rather than test Florida's really good corners.

Alabama is going to be a running football team this year. That's what they will live and die by. However, Sims has been better than a lot expected thus far, even against weaker competition. Possibly good enough to effectively complement a strong running game ala McElroy - 2009, McCarron - 2011. It's unknown at this time for sure.
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