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re: What was the penalty for the Alabama teabagger

Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:30 am to
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:30 am to
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Boys play grabass in middle school locker rooms, I would feel differently if someone grabbed my daughters arse.


Good for you. Just because that's how your personally feel doesn't mean sexual assault laws should afford less protections for men than women.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:31 am to
If this had happened in a Muslim country, would the offender have been castrated?
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:31 am to
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Good for you. Just because that's how your personally feel doesn't mean sexual assault laws should afford less protections for men than women.
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Everyone who says stuff like this would surely change their tune if it happened to their own daughter.
Well which one are you talking about? How we feel in common sense or the letter of the law? You're trying to apply both as you see fit.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:32 am to
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He was a 33-year-old man, with a wife and kids...

Exactly. Just give him a fine and community service.

Our prisons are overcrowded, underfunded, and here we are giving a guy two years for teabagging.
This post was edited on 5/19/16 at 9:34 am
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28585 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:33 am to
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Well which one are you talking about? How we feel in common sense or the letter of the law? You're trying to apply both as you see fit.



Common sense tells me the law is written that way for a reason and should be applied to everyone equally.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:33 am to
If my daughter is alone and passed out on bourbon st there is a moral hazard here, right? I wouldn't like it, but it's not sexual assault.

And continuing to throw around "making someone touch genitals against their will" is a very exaggerated description of what actually happened.
Posted by Tiger2287
Member since Jan 2016
398 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:35 am to
[He was a 33-year-old man, with a wife and kids...]

[Exactly. Just give him a fine and community service. ]

Or lead by example for your kids
Posted by LSUbase13
Mt. Pleasant, SC
Member since Mar 2008
15060 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:36 am to
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I'm not defending shite. Just saying the punishment doesn't fit the crime.


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§106. Obscenity

A. The crime of obscenity is the intentional:

(1) Exposure of the genitals, pubic hair, anus, vulva, or female breast nipples in any public place or place open to the public view, or in any prison or jail, with the intent of arousing sexual desire or which appeals to prurient interest or is patently offensive.

G.(1) On a first conviction, whoever commits the crime of obscenity shall be fined not less than one thousand dollars nor more than two thousand five hundred dollars, or imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not less than six months nor more than three years, or both.
This post was edited on 5/19/16 at 9:37 am
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:37 am to
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Or lead by example for your kids

No one is saying what he did was right, but you don't have to give him such an extreme punishment over something that did nothing more than hurt someone's ego.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:37 am to
Meh. Men can get groped by disgusting streetwalkers without feeling scarred or violated. Bros hit each other in the nuts and give titty twisters because they think it's funny. Change the gender and it's a whole different story. Men and women are different. That's common sense. Laws just don't allow for that.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:38 am to
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G.(1) On a first conviction, whoever commits the crime of obscenity shall be fined not less than one thousand dollars nor more than two thousand five hundred dollars, or imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not less than six months nor more than three years, or both.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28585 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:39 am to
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If my daughter is alone and passed out on bourbon st there is a moral hazard here, right? I wouldn't like it, but it's not sexual assault.


You should start a campaign to change the law. "Hey everyone, don't you want free reign to sexually assault people who are passed out in public places?! Vote for Proposition 342 so we can all sexually assault the inebriated without the pesky jail time!"


quote:


And continuing to throw around "making someone touch genitals against their will" is a very exaggerated description of what actually happened.


I'm sorry. Let me rephrase - "When the gentleman gently placed his scrotum onto the resting man's face, I do not believe the resting man had given his permission to do so."
Posted by dwr353
Member since Oct 2007
2130 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:40 am to
There is a difference between Bros and complete strangers. Also public and private. Can you not understand that?
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:43 am to
I personally have had a hooker, who was a stranger and in public, grab my crotch and start licking my ear uninvited. I had to physically force her off of me. I then went on about my life and never considered myself a victim or pursuing anything legal.

If a man had done this to my wife it would be a very different story.

That's all I am saying.
This post was edited on 5/19/16 at 9:43 am
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:44 am to
In fact I think it would be pretty ridiculous and silly for a man to press charges in that situation. For a woman I would support it completely.
Posted by dwr353
Member since Oct 2007
2130 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:46 am to
Had this occurred between friends in private I could not care less. We will just have to agree to disagree. To e to move on.
Posted by LSUbase13
Mt. Pleasant, SC
Member since Mar 2008
15060 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:46 am to
quote:

I personally have had a hooker, who was a stranger and in public, grab my crotch and start licking my ear uninvited. I had to physically force her off of me. I then went on about my life and never considered myself a victim or pursuing anything legal.



That really isn't the same.



Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:47 am to
I didn't say it was the same. Follow the conversation
Posted by LSUbase13
Mt. Pleasant, SC
Member since Mar 2008
15060 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:48 am to
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In fact I think it would be pretty ridiculous and silly for a man to press charges in that situation


The State of Louisiana brings the charges. This wasn't a civil suit. This wasn't:

Drunk LSU fan

vs.

Alabama loser, douchebag

It was:

The State of Louisiana

vs.

Deadbeat, Alabama loser of a father
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:50 am to
That makes it a bit more ridiculous. Of all the things that happen on Bourbon St., this is the thing they give 2 years in jail for?
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