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Posted on 5/17/14 at 2:20 pm to devtiger1
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Posted by Message devtiger1 what is the cause of Tennessee's lack of success since 2008? (No message)
You serious Clark?
Posted on 5/17/14 at 2:21 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Getting rid of Fulmer was a mistake.
Right. Look at all the jobs he's been getting since. Clearly he had more left in the tank.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 2:22 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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How so? Cut left y'all in '99. Until '08 y'all were always pretty damn good.
Cutcliffe came back in 2006 and was there in 2007. Fulmer went 10-13 his last two years without Cut.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 2:22 pm to volfan30
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He was done. Should have been fired after 2005.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 2:26 pm to ohiovol
and that was WITH Chavis as DC.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 2:29 pm to gatorhata9
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No it's not
Yes it is
Posted on 5/17/14 at 2:31 pm to davesdawgs
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Short answer: talent and coaching. Some posted data in this forum today that showed a significant down-turn in the number of players Tennessee has put in the NFL over the last 5 or so years compared to the previous 5 years.
UT always had talent.
Rivals.com last 13 years UGA vs UT. UT has 7-6 edge over UGA even when you include Dooley's shitty classes.
2002 UT 5 5*, 16 4*
2002 UGA 1 5*, 18 4*
2003 UT 1 5*, 7 4*
2003 UGA 2 5*, 8 4*
2004 UT 2 5*, 8 4*
2004 UGA 1 5*, 11 4*
2005 UT 1 5*, 16 4*
2005 UGA 0 5*, 11 4*
2006 UT 1 5*, 4 4*
2006 UGA 2 5*, 14 4*
2007 UT 5 5*, 11 4*
2007 UGA 0 5*, 12 4*
2008 UT 0 5*, 4 4*
2008 UGA 2 5*, 13 4*
2009 UT 2 5*, 9 4*
2009 UGA 1 5*, 14 4*
2010 UT 1 5*, 12 4*
2010 UGA 0 5*, 9 4*
2011 UT 0 5*, 12 4*
2011 UGA 2 5*, 12 4*
2012 UT 0 5*, 10 4*
2012 UGA 2 5*, 6 4*
2013 UT 0 5*, 5 4*
2013 UGA 0 5*, 16 4*
2014 UT 2 5*, 16 4*
2014 UGA 1 5*, 12 4*
This post was edited on 5/17/14 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 5/17/14 at 2:33 pm to volfan30
2003 team especially.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 2:52 pm to Ted2010
Posted on 5/17/14 at 2:54 pm to NoBovineIntervention
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Dubose+Fran+PapaPrice = the CFB equivalent of Nagasaki
^Fair enough.
That said:
Posted on 5/17/14 at 3:38 pm to Phat Phil
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Phat Phil
Doesn't matter if that talent leaves or gets kicked out. That happened more often than not the past 6-7 years
Posted on 5/17/14 at 5:15 pm to BigOrangeBri
People forget, it's not just since 2008 it's a full decade... Is it terminal???
UT is 67 - 58 over the last 10 years. 9 games over .500 for an entire decade...
The rest of the BIG-6...
UA... 101 - 30 (+71)
AU... 92 - 37 (+55)
LSU... 104 - 27 (+77)
UF ... 94 - 36 (+58)
UGA... 93 - 37 (+56)
Hell...SCe is 83 - 44 (+39)
Arkansas is 67 - 56 (+11)
UT is 67 - 58 over the last 10 years. 9 games over .500 for an entire decade...
The rest of the BIG-6...
UA... 101 - 30 (+71)
AU... 92 - 37 (+55)
LSU... 104 - 27 (+77)
UF ... 94 - 36 (+58)
UGA... 93 - 37 (+56)
Hell...SCe is 83 - 44 (+39)
Arkansas is 67 - 56 (+11)
Posted on 5/17/14 at 5:16 pm to NoBovineIntervention
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WITH Chavis as DC.
it took 3 pages to mention his name. Letting him go along with the Fulmer fallout are the reasons for Tennessee's initial fall from glory. The kiffin bullshite didn't help the brief recruiting spike.
Tenn is now on the rise though. They have to avoid another distraction.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 5:21 pm to devtiger1
Brothers, sisters, cousins, aunt's, uncle's....
Posted on 5/17/14 at 5:47 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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I don't think I've ever seen a coach more butthurt about losing a player than Fulmer was with that. He was the reason we got fricking investigated.
Interesting. He got us investigated, too, while the NCAA looked the other way while his arse was cheating the same way up in Knoxville.
Tennessee's lack of success since 2008 is due to karma. Plain and simple. Saban sealing Fulmer's fate after the beatdowns of 2007 and 2008 was among the most satisfying moments for me as a fan.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 6:02 pm to dallasga6
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People forget, it's not just since 2008 it's a full decade... Is it terminal???
UT is 67 - 58 over the last 10 years. 9 games over .500 for an entire decade...
The rest of the BIG-6...
UA... 101 - 30 (+71)
AU... 92 - 37 (+55)
LSU... 104 - 27 (+77)
UF ... 94 - 36 (+58)
UGA... 93 - 37 (+56)
Hell...SCe is 83 - 44 (+39)
Arkansas is 67 - 56 (+
This^
Posted on 5/17/14 at 6:09 pm to BarberitosDawg
2003: 10-3
2004: 10-3
2005: 5-6
2006: 9-4
2007: 10-4
2008: 5-7
2009: 7-6
2010: 6-7
2011: 5-7
2012: 5-7
2013: 5-7
It's not terminal. At least not yet. They were good in 2003 and 2004. There was an anomaly in '05 before they recovered in '06 and '07. Then the bottom fell out in 2008 and UT has yet to recover. This season will tell the story of their future in the SEC.
2004: 10-3
2005: 5-6
2006: 9-4
2007: 10-4
2008: 5-7
2009: 7-6
2010: 6-7
2011: 5-7
2012: 5-7
2013: 5-7
It's not terminal. At least not yet. They were good in 2003 and 2004. There was an anomaly in '05 before they recovered in '06 and '07. Then the bottom fell out in 2008 and UT has yet to recover. This season will tell the story of their future in the SEC.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 6:11 pm to RollTide1987
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Interesting. He got us investigated, too, while the NCAA looked the other way while his arse was cheating the same way up in Knoxville.
You realize Saban also testified against bama right?
Posted on 5/17/14 at 6:12 pm to dallasga6
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People forget, it's not just since 2008 it's a full decade... Is it terminal???
Actually, it is just since 2008
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