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Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:42 am to lefty08
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:47 am to CrimsonCoast
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Look. Until Gus puts together a shitty offense, you can have some skepticism. He's proven that he can take whatever he has and make it work well. Given the good recruiting Auburn has been doing, there is no reason to think he won't compete to lead the league in offense again.
The defense is a question mark. They have the talent and Boom is a good DC. It all really hinges on him.
This is pretty much it. As long as we're running Malzahn's offense, we're going to put up numbers. Even with last years schedule, the only game we were never really in was the uga game. Both the defense and the offense shite the bed in that one.
The offense will be more dynamic this year with a better passing threat. Our RB's will be better. Artis-Payne was a solid back, but the potential in what we at RB this year is better than what he put on the field last year.
The success of our team hinges on the defense. If they can finally turn that corner and play solid defense, we'll be a contender. If they continue to play like they did in the second half of the year last year, we won't. I certainly think we'll improve, but by how much is the question.
While we didn't have the best secondary last year, it was made that much worse by having pretty much zero pass rush. This year we'll have Lawson back as well as having some underclassmen starting to really grow into their roles on defense, specifically a few more DE's and some LB's that will be rushing out of Muschamp's formations, not to mention having Byron Cowart coming in to play. Losing Daniel doesn't help, but he was never really that great at getting after the QB. If our pass rush can improve, it would help our secondary drastically.
This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 11:57 am
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:03 pm to gstiger2233
I agree that saying "no chance" is dumb. But I think auburn fans are assuming a lot of facts that aren't in evidence.
1. yall are making a lot of assumptions about Johnson. You are all assuming he'll be a factor running the ball. But he did not have a reputation in high school as a dangerous runner. He's not anywhere near the running threat that Marshall was. He's not a physical runner like Tebow or Dak. I've also seen some of yall say he'll be a first round pick. Big assumption there. His ceiling is basically Brett Hundley. Nice QB, but he didn't even sniff the first round.
2. yall assume that Muschamp's presence will automatically make your defense better. what about the issue of changing schemes? yall don't have a lot of depth on defense. the pieces you do have will be all learning new roles.
3. you assume Golson will just step in and replace Dismukes. yall spent the last 2-3 years telling us Dismukes was the best center in the conference and then the country. Golson has never played Center and he's shown throughout his career that he doesn't handle adversity very well.
4. your LT got embarrassed in pass pro last year and you admittedly are going to have a more pass happy offense. How will that improve? Did the SEC legalize sleeper holds for OL this year?
1. yall are making a lot of assumptions about Johnson. You are all assuming he'll be a factor running the ball. But he did not have a reputation in high school as a dangerous runner. He's not anywhere near the running threat that Marshall was. He's not a physical runner like Tebow or Dak. I've also seen some of yall say he'll be a first round pick. Big assumption there. His ceiling is basically Brett Hundley. Nice QB, but he didn't even sniff the first round.
2. yall assume that Muschamp's presence will automatically make your defense better. what about the issue of changing schemes? yall don't have a lot of depth on defense. the pieces you do have will be all learning new roles.
3. you assume Golson will just step in and replace Dismukes. yall spent the last 2-3 years telling us Dismukes was the best center in the conference and then the country. Golson has never played Center and he's shown throughout his career that he doesn't handle adversity very well.
4. your LT got embarrassed in pass pro last year and you admittedly are going to have a more pass happy offense. How will that improve? Did the SEC legalize sleeper holds for OL this year?
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:06 pm to lefty08
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It's fine army, most threads started by hawg fans on this site are troll threads. Most of these guys are aware that's what we are.
FIFY
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:09 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
quote:How did you come to this conclusion?
His ceiling is basically Brett Hundley
quote:Well, he is the best defensive coordinator Auburn has had since...he was here in 2006 and 2007. Auburn has limited depth at cornerback but the rest of the positions are good, IMO.
yall assume that Muschamp's presence will automatically make your defense better.
quote:Austin Golson is very talented, as evidenced by him starting as a true freshman at Ole Miss. Will he be better than Reese Dismukes? Probably not, Reese Dismukes was an incredible college center. Also, when has Austin Golson showed that he doesn't handle adversity well?
you assume Golson will just step in and replace Dismukes. yall spent the last 2-3 years telling us Dismukes was the best center in the conference and then the country. Golson has never played Center and he's shown throughout his career that he doesn't handle adversity very well.
quote:Not in every game, and Alex Kozan coming back is an upgrade over what Auburn had a left guard in 2014. That will only help. Also, coaches have said that Shon Coleman is showing definite improvement. TIFWIW.
your LT got embarrassed in pass pro last year and you admittedly are going to have a more pass happy offense. How will that improve? Did the SEC legalize sleeper holds for OL this year?
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:37 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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yall are making a lot of assumptions about Johnson.
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His ceiling is basically Brett Hundley
at the ironyThis post was edited on 5/5/15 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:45 pm to lefty08
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:51 pm to lefty08
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What is the Auburn love based on?
Family. That's what I have heard.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 1:12 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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His ceiling is basically Brett Hundley
How many SEC teams would drool at the thought of that right now? Pretty much all of them. Put Hundley in a Malzahn offense, yes please! JJ has shown on the field what his potential is though, and its a little better than Hundley.
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2. yall assume that Muschamp's presence will automatically make your defense better. what about the issue of changing schemes? yall don't have a lot of depth on defense. the pieces you do have will be all learning new roles.
Only place we lack depth is the secondary. We have tons of talent on D. Particularly in the front seven. Mostly in the front 4. Elite talent in the front 4.
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you assume Golson will just step in and replace Dismukes. yall spent the last 2-3 years telling us Dismukes was the best center in the conference and then the country.
Yep. Gotta prove it. All we can go on is practice reports though, and the early returns have been promising.
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your LT got embarrassed in pass pro last year and you admittedly are going to have a more pass happy offense. How will that improve? Did the SEC legalize sleeper holds for OL this year?
Worse. He was tortured and abused. His issues aren't arm legnth, height, speed or strength though. They were technique issues. If he fixes those, he has elite measureables and attributes for a left tackle.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 1:36 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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But he did not have a reputation in high school as a dangerous runner.
fwiw, he ran for 706 yards at 6.7 ypc w 9 TD's as a senior in high school. He torched Auburn high school running it - 9 carries for 120 yards and 3 TDs. Auburn high school had a damn good defense too, led by none other than Reuben Foster and Rashaan Evans, as well as Cameron Echols-Luper, who's playing at TCU.
I think with the weight he's gained, he'll be more of a running threat than most think. He's got pretty good speed, he's just always been a rail up until he started gaining weight in the last two years. Now he's got some bulk.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 2:02 pm to hawgfaninc
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because preseason hype and rankings mean so much
So you're saying FSU, Bama, Ohio State, and Oregon were NOT notable pre-season favorites prior to last season?
Posted on 5/5/15 at 2:15 pm to TTsTowel
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His ceiling is basically Brett HundleyHow did you come to this conclusion?
eyeball test. strong arm, above average athlete. doesn't run the offense. do you think it's not a valid comparison?
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Also, when has Austin Golson showed that he doesn't handle adversity well?
when he tried to quit his HS team and when he left OM.
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Alex Kozan coming back is an upgrade over what Auburn had a left guard in 2014. That will only help
yeah, if Kozan is back healthy, that will definitely help Coleman. valid point. But has he been on the field yet or is he still working his way back? Another assumption?
Posted on 5/5/15 at 2:18 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
You're acting like Auburn fans are the only ones that think Auburn will be good this year. You also seem to be making a ton of assumptions yourself.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 2:19 pm to 2smooth
quote:Par for the course. It's Arkansas.
AMy one reading your thread and seeing some of your responses say three things.
1. You didn't want real discussion because several of your reply's are insults and jabs.
2. You have posters responding with legit answers and you dismissing them with ignorance, insults, and jabs.
3. It is quite clear you don't have an understanding of football or you are in fact trolling. Personally I feel it is both.
It's laughable that hog fans are talking league championship and playoffs after winning only a couple of SEC games. Yet question Auburn's chances and media attention. Not sure why Auburn fans are even engaging you in this "discussion" of their team.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 2:20 pm to WareagleKK
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How many SEC teams would drool at the thought of that right now?
all of them. Hundley is a damn good QB. my point is that he was not a first round pick, not even close. I just think the guys calling him a 1st round pick are getting way ahead of themselves. gotta see a whole lot more than mopup duty and one half against Arky before you go calling him a first round QB.
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We have tons of talent on D. Particularly in the front seven. Mostly in the front 4. Elite talent in the front 4.
where? Lawson if he's healthy, yes. but that's another assumption. Cowart isn't even on campus yet (another assumption). Who else are you claiming as elite talent?
Posted on 5/5/15 at 2:22 pm to Smoke7024
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You're acting like Auburn fans are the only ones that think Auburn will be good this year
no, I think they'll be good. I said it's dumb to think they have "no chance" to win the west. they absolutely do. But i'm just pointing out that there are some chinks in the armor.
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You also seem to be making a ton of assumptions yourself.
what am I assuming?
This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 5/5/15 at 2:23 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
Get ready for Dragon Cam in 2015. He's gonna Jeet Kune Do the SEC like a great Bruce Lee movie. He will handle the ball like a set of nunchaku's. Enter the Black Dragon coming to a stadium near you.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 2:32 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
That you know Jeremy Johnson's ceiling. We haven't seen enough of him to know that yet.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 2:35 pm to Smoke7024
Which is the irony of his whole post isn't it? He starts off by saying us fans are assuming to much as he is an unknown quantity, and yet has decided what his ceiling is all in the same paragraph...
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