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re: What exactly do y'all want to happen here?
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:46 am to EarlyCuyler3
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:46 am to EarlyCuyler3
So you think they are presenting charges and evidence against Miller to the grand jury after the ADA publicly stated they didn’t have anything they could charge him with?
You are flailing about here.
You are flailing about here.
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:47 am to WDE24
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Second, the elected, politician DA probably does owe an explanation of the decision not to prosecute.
Perhaps. But he is not accountable to the national media, just to the citizens of Tuscaloosa County. How many of those citizens actually care what's going on with Brandon Miller right now?
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Because public trust. Because accountability. Because a police detective’s sworn testimony implicated him.
If this were a federal case then you'd have a point. But as I mentioned above, the DA in this particular case is only accountable to the people he serves. He shouldn't care what anyone outside the county thinks. And the police detective's sworn testimony only told us that he was there that night. Deductive reasoning should tell you that if he had done anything criminal then he would be in jail right now, considering how two people have already been charged with capital murder in this case.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:47 am to WDE24
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You are flailing about here.
Someone sure is.
Like I said at the beginning, you just don't like the answer.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:50 am to RollTide1987
quote:No. it told us he was sent a text requesting a gun. He brought the gun after the text was sent. The two defendants were with him in his car and discussed the gun having a bullet in the chamber. His car blocked the jeep the victim was sitting in.
And the police detective's sworn testimony only told us that he was there that night.
After that testimony, an explanation for what other information exists that led the DA to not prosecute is appropriate.
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:51 am to EarlyCuyler3
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Someone sure is.
Like I said at the beginning, you just don't like the answer.
Unfortunately, this is the world we live it. Public opinion doesn't like it, so they scream until they get their way. They don't care that we have rules of law to follow. They just want their way.
Just wait and let it all go to trial.. at this point, it's more like a Salem witch hunt than allowing the process to work.
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:52 am to RollTide1987
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See...this is where we disagree. According to the police, he did not make a terrible decision. In an incident like the one that occurred in January, if he had indeed made a terrible decision he would have been charged with a crime due to the fact that a human being was murdered.
Making a terrible decision doesn't mean he committed a crime.
That's an odd equivalency.
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According to the police, he was not involved and is considered a witness. You are essentially arguing for him to sit the rest of the season for witnessing a criminal act.
Can you link to this statement?
I've only seen where the DA said there was nothing they could charge him with, that doesn't mean he's guilty or innocent, it just means there was no evidence strong enough to charge him with a crime.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:53 am to EarlyCuyler3
quote:Remember, you claimed I didn’t know what I was talking about. Is the DA going to present its evidence against Miller to the grand jury? If not, is the Grand Jury for the DA to provide its explanation regarding not prosecuting Miller, as the other poster claimed.
Someone sure is.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:53 am to WDE24
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No. it told us he was sent a text requesting a gun. He bright the fun after the text was sent. The two defendants were with him in his car and discussed the gun having a bullet in the chamber. His car blocked the Hero the victim was sitting in.
From what I can piece together from your Auburn education here, it's still wrong.
Amazing how many things you're getting wrong in just this thread.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:53 am to WDE24
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you claimed I didn’t know what I was talking about
And the statement from you I just quoted proves me right again.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:54 am to WDE24
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No. it told us he was sent a text requesting a gun. He bright the fun after the text was sent. The two defendants were with him in his car and discussed the gun having a bullet in the chamber. His car blocked the Hero the victim was sitting in.
So the lead detective in this case said all of that on the stand and yet chose not to arrest Brandon Miller that night? That would tell me that the attorney for Miller's statement, issued last week, might contain large elements of truth. Otherwise he'd be in the county lockup right now and not playing basketball.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:55 am to EarlyCuyler3
quote:I’ve got a degree from Alabama, unlike you.
From what I can piece together from your Auburn education here, it's still wrong.
quote:Show your work.
And the statement from you I just quoted proves me right again.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:55 am to bogeypro
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What exactly do y'all want to happen here?
As an LSU fan, I'm torn. Bad news for Bama is always good news for us. But, when you see the likes of the Today show morons cover it, starts to remind me of Pat Forde's crusade against Will Wade. My disdain for the media might actually outweigh my rooting against Bama. Tough call!
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:56 am to WDE24
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4. Identify when Miller/Bradley reached out to LEO or visa versa.
We already know the answer to this question from the Miller attorney's statement. "As soon as he was notified that someone had been injured and the police wished to speak with him, he has fully cooperated with law enforcement's investigation."
This is grounds enough for Alabama to expel Brandon Miller. He listened in as Miles/Davis discussed a crime in the back seat of his car. He watched as Davis fired 8 rounds into an occupied vehicle. He sped away from the scene. Never once did he think to call 911 to report a crime that he was uniquely positioned to observe until after he found out the cops wanted to speak with him. Any reasonable person that happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time is making that call without question.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:58 am to RollTide1987
quote:We don’t know if he chose not to arrest him or received that directive from the DA.
So the lead detective in this case said all of that on the stand and yet chose not to arrest Brandon Miller that night?
quote:Why should we be left to speculate. You apparently acknowledge that it seems strange the detective would state all of this and not charge Miller. That means an explanation is probably in order.
That would tell me that
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:05 am to Razorback Reverend
You, along with others, have already tried, convicted, and sentenced the kid without having access to ALL the information.
That's not how things work in this country! There'll be plenty of time for punishment when the investigation is over, NOT before!
That's not how things work in this country! There'll be plenty of time for punishment when the investigation is over, NOT before!
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:05 am to bogeypro
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so they scream until they get their way. They don't care that we have rules of law to follow. They just want their way.
Sir, bringing a requested gun with the understanding that there was trouble to what becomes a murder scene is a crime.
How many attorneys would you like for me to quote?
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If someone aids in the killing of another person but isn't present when the murder is committed, they can be charged as an “accessory to murder.”
Alabama Code Section 13A-2-23 is the statue that defines whether someone is an accessory to a crime. That statute says:
A person is accountable for the behavior of another constituting an offense if, with the intent to promote or assist the commission of the offense:
(1) He/she procures, induces or causes the other person to commit the offense;
(2) He/she aids or abets the other person in committing the offense; [or] (CHECK)
(3) Having a legal duty to prevent the commission of the offense, he/she fails to make an effort he/she is legally required to make. (CHECK)
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:08 am to coachcrisp
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You, along with others, have already tried, convicted, and sentenced the kid without having access to ALL the information.
That's not how things work in this country! There'll be plenty of time for punishment when the investigation is over, NOT before!
But there is enough evidence to show he should not be on the court.
He literally got a text and followed what the text message stated.
Per Alabama law:
(3) Having a legal duty to prevent the commission of the offense, he/she fails to make an effort he/she is legally required to make.
All he had to do was NOT take the gun.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:09 am to WDE24
quote:"We don’t know"
We don’t know if he chose not to arrest him or received that directive from the DA.
There's probably a lot that "we don't know"! Let the process run it's course, THEN respond!
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:13 am to coachcrisp
quote:Exactly. That’s why my response to the op was a list requesting additional information.
We don’t know" There's probably a lot that "we don't know"!
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:13 am to WDE24
Miller isn’t on trial.. he hasn’t been charged because he didn’t do anything criminal.
I understand that you all want him to be charged..etc. But he isn’t, he won’t be and apparently he shouldn’t be…. But none of that matters to any of you!
If Brandon Miller played for Vandy none of you would care.. but he doesn’t! He plays for ALABAMA! The school that has been beating your arse in the sport you care most about for a 100 years!
Now suddenly, that same school is kicking your arse in Basketball too.. I know that’s difficult for you guys.
I’ve always known that people in the south hate Alabama.. I just didn’t realize your hate was so deep that you would be willing to suspend the thing that defines who we are as a people! “Innocent until proven guilty “ , “equal rights under the law”.
Brandon Miller isn’t a murderer.. He isn’t an accomplice to Murder, he’s not a thug and he isn’t guilty of anything other than not being able to see into the future.
But y’all keep calling him a murderer, keep saying he is an accomplice. We don’t care, because we know he’s not!
We are going to pull for him, cheer for our team and pray for Everyone involved.
It’s a tragic situation… that unfortunately happens way to often in the streets of US cities every day.
But none of you really care about that… you care about trying to punish the school that your great granddaddy , granddaddy and daddy taught you to hate.. because Alabama built this conference, owns this conference and has been stomping a mud hole in your arse for a century.
I understand that you all want him to be charged..etc. But he isn’t, he won’t be and apparently he shouldn’t be…. But none of that matters to any of you!
If Brandon Miller played for Vandy none of you would care.. but he doesn’t! He plays for ALABAMA! The school that has been beating your arse in the sport you care most about for a 100 years!
Now suddenly, that same school is kicking your arse in Basketball too.. I know that’s difficult for you guys.
I’ve always known that people in the south hate Alabama.. I just didn’t realize your hate was so deep that you would be willing to suspend the thing that defines who we are as a people! “Innocent until proven guilty “ , “equal rights under the law”.
Brandon Miller isn’t a murderer.. He isn’t an accomplice to Murder, he’s not a thug and he isn’t guilty of anything other than not being able to see into the future.
But y’all keep calling him a murderer, keep saying he is an accomplice. We don’t care, because we know he’s not!
We are going to pull for him, cheer for our team and pray for Everyone involved.
It’s a tragic situation… that unfortunately happens way to often in the streets of US cities every day.
But none of you really care about that… you care about trying to punish the school that your great granddaddy , granddaddy and daddy taught you to hate.. because Alabama built this conference, owns this conference and has been stomping a mud hole in your arse for a century.
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