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re: What do you make of the info from these poll results?
Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:04 pm to i am dan
Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:04 pm to i am dan
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I meant just about any good college coach can achieve great success if they have his caliber of players. TCU would've, in my opinion, had a 50/50 shot at beating Bama if they were in the playoff game against each other. TCU has probably never broken #20 on recruiting rankings. So what does that say about Patterson?
So in your opinion if Patterson was the coach at Bama with the resources Saban has and was able to recruit top 5 classes every year, he would win the title every year?
Oh and there is a reason Auburn seems to do better in years when they have no expectations.
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 2:07 pm
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:07 pm to i am dan
No Bert? List is $hit
Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:09 pm to Stacked
Meyer is the new King of college football, picking up where he left off at Florida. With Harbaugh at UM, the conference arms race just received a huge shift in the balance of power.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I see the same pattern happening at OSU for Meyer now with CJH at UM. Meyer's success has always been at the begging of hi stint when the conference overall was down. Once the Big whatever they are catches up his stint may go elsewhere.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:25 pm to TideWarrior
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So in your opinion if Patterson was the coach at Bama with the resources Saban has and was able to recruit top 5 classes every year, he would win the title every year? Oh and there is a reason Auburn seems to do better in years when they have no expectations.
I believe if Patterson was at Bama with all the same resources and the 6th straight #1 class (I'll bold that for you) that, yes, he would be as successful as Saban.
Do you find that inconceivable?
TCU while averaging #22-30ish in recruiting classes wouldve had a good change in beating Bama who has had the #1 recruiting class for 6 years straight (bolded again).
Now don't get me wrong. Saban is a great coach because he brings in the players, but how do you compare him with coaches who can beat him while having much less rated players? Last year TCU had 1 4* player and that's it. Didn't check the previous years. What does that say about actual coaching ability?
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:25 pm to Stacked
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What do you make of the info from these poll results?
A hat...?
Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:28 pm to Gary Busey
Go easy with Dan.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:31 pm to nc14
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Go easy with Dan.
Ha. Im just looking at this from another standpoint which brings a good discussion to the table. I'm not trying to offend (but who cares if someone says something less than appealing about some coach).
I just think Bama fans SHOULD expect to be in the running for the NC every year with the way Saban recruits. But other coaches are producing almost the same quality team with lesser recruits. And I believe Saban is a good coach too. Never said he wasn't. But I think his recruiting ability is what puts him above most others.
If Auburn had the #1 recruiting class a few years in a row, they better as hell be in the playoffs too.
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:37 pm to i am dan
Do you know the last year that Bama was not number one at some point in the season? Your discussion excuse, along with it's passive/aggressive style, are entirely to state anything negative that you can about Alabama. It's consistent, inaccurate and most of all whiney.
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:39 pm to i am dan
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If Auburn had the #1 recruiting class a few years in a row, they better as hell be in the playoffs too.
Start with winning ten games in back to back seasons first. Your recruiting has not been that bad.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:41 pm to nc14
I completely disagree. I opened up a dialogue about coaching and it happens to question your coach's ability to a degree. You apparently do not agree with it, so you just call me a bunch of adjectives.
Have you seen our defensive recruiting?
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Start with winning ten games in back to back seasons first. Your recruiting has not been that bad.
Have you seen our defensive recruiting?
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:41 pm to Stacked
That 19% of the voters are either complete homers, or morons. You can make a legit argument for Saban or Meyer, but no one else.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:43 pm to Tiger Live2
S. Car. is full of Clemson fans & people from Ohio who've moved to Myrtle Beach...
Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:47 pm to dallasga6
The poll is the prime example of the rest of the country tired of hearing about the SEC powerhouses. All my friends here in NC were so happy that an SEC team wasn't in the championship game.
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:49 pm to i am dan
quote:Consistancy is paramount.
Ha. Im just looking at this from another standpoint which brings a good discussion to the table. I'm not trying to offend (but who cares if someone says something less than appealing about some coach). I just think Bama fans SHOULD expect to be in the running for the NC every year with the way Saban recruits. But other coaches are producing almost the same quality team with lesser recruits. And I believe Saban is a good coach too. Never said he wasn't. But I think his recruiting ability is what puts him above most others. If Auburn had the #1 recruiting class a few years in a row, they better as hell be in the playoffs too.
AU could have had the #1 recruiting class a few years in a row but when your on your 3rd head coach in 8 yrs and on the 3rd or 4th cycle of coordinators & assistant coaches it makes it tough to get the most out of your talent and yet AU has been able to make 2 NC appearances.
Now we look at Les Miles who has had equal talent as Saban in the last 8 yrs and he has two NC appearances.
It takes great recruiting, smart program management, coaching stability, and effective/productive schemes to win with Saban's consistancy.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:50 pm to i am dan
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I believe if Patterson was at Bama with all the same resources and the 6th straight #1 class (I'll bold that for you) that, yes, he would be as successful as Saban.
Do you find that inconceivable?
If in your opinion he is a much better game day coach then shouldn't he do better than Saban if he had equal talent? You are now just saying he could do just do as well as Saban has?
It isn't easy getting a team of great talent all on the same page and consistently winning when every team is gunning to knock you off. Saban has done it better than almost everyone in history including Pete Carroll. Patterson is a good coach, but to assume he could lead a program with yearly high expectations as well as Saban has these last 7 seasons is speculation that just can't be supported with what he has done at a school that can play loose every game with no expectations.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:52 pm to Stacked
I got that there aren't as many real Gumps in FL as I thought or that there are more Auburn fans here than I thought.
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Dumb rednecks love Saban - well, that is true no matter what we are talking about in here but whatever....
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Dumb rednecks love Saban - well, that is true no matter what we are talking about in here but whatever....
Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:53 pm to Stacked
Saban is the best bar none love him or hate him.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:55 pm to Aman
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If in your opinion he is a much better game day coach then shouldn't he do better than Saban if he had equal talent? You are now just saying he could do just do as well as Saban has? It isn't easy getting a team of great talent all on the same page and consistently winning when every team is gunning to knock you off. Saban has done it better than almost everyone in history including Pete Carroll. Patterson is a good coach, but to assume he could lead a program with yearly high expectations as well as Saban has these last 7 seasons is speculation that just can't be supported with what he has done at a school that can play loose every game with no expectations.
Stress, pressure, sky high expectations, and the massive obligations of running a program of Alabama's caliber AND being able to put a championship contender on the field year in and year out is pressure cooker like no other.
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