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re: What do you consider to be the "modern era" of college football?
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:12 am to Tornado Alley
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:12 am to Tornado Alley
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1980 - present
1981-present
Big 5
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:21 am to Pettifogger
1950 sounds good to me.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:09 pm to Rzrbackguy
I think it should be since it has been fully integrated. Probably mid 70's.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:26 pm to logjamming
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logjamming
What do you consider to be the "modern era" of college football?
by logjamming
LSU: 2000-Present
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :lol: :rotflmao: :lol: :rotflmao: Yes because, of course, prior to 2000, when LSU was 12th all-time in NCAA victories and 10th in bowl appearances (from 1893-2000), we had no history or tradition...
(We are now #11 in victories and #8 in bowl apps).
Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:34 pm to sabes que
Take your pick:
1973 - 105 scholarship limit
1978 - 95 scholarship limit
1992 - 85 scholarship limit
I'd go with 1973 simply because there was some limit, when previously there wasn't.
If anybody doesn't like the scholarship limit argument, then 1965, when the one-platoon rule was repealed. That rule change started the demise of football excellence for small schools like TCU and Baylor (not sure about southeast teams) simply because they couldn't afford it. It also introduced hulks on the lines. Thirty years later the two I mentioned got back to relevance because of TV dollars.
1973 - 105 scholarship limit
1978 - 95 scholarship limit
1992 - 85 scholarship limit
I'd go with 1973 simply because there was some limit, when previously there wasn't.
If anybody doesn't like the scholarship limit argument, then 1965, when the one-platoon rule was repealed. That rule change started the demise of football excellence for small schools like TCU and Baylor (not sure about southeast teams) simply because they couldn't afford it. It also introduced hulks on the lines. Thirty years later the two I mentioned got back to relevance because of TV dollars.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:37 pm to Tornado Alley
There have been many changes since the mid-90s. You could make an argument that the modern era of football coincides with the mass proliferation and use of the internet. Other than changes in equipment technology, and modern day schemes of the game; the internet changed recruiting completely.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:42 pm to sabes que
Just made up...
Pre 1906 is like the caveman days. Why 1906? That's when the NCAA was founded and the rules standardized.
1906-1936 is like the infancy. Why 1936? That's when the AP Poll began.
1936-1973 was like the radio era. Why 1973? That's roughly when the polls switched to post-bowl championships and when games began being on TV a good deal. Also freshman eligible, also teams fully integrated by then.
1973-1992 was like the modernization era.
1992-current modern era. Why 1992? (organized national championship games begin, conference with divisions, etc.)
Pre 1906 is like the caveman days. Why 1906? That's when the NCAA was founded and the rules standardized.
1906-1936 is like the infancy. Why 1936? That's when the AP Poll began.
1936-1973 was like the radio era. Why 1973? That's roughly when the polls switched to post-bowl championships and when games began being on TV a good deal. Also freshman eligible, also teams fully integrated by then.
1973-1992 was like the modernization era.
1992-current modern era. Why 1992? (organized national championship games begin, conference with divisions, etc.)
This post was edited on 8/4/15 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:37 pm to sabes que
In the SEC it's the 14-team modern era. 2012-present
Posted on 8/4/15 at 2:40 pm to SavageOrangeJug
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College football was a truly major national sport WAY BEFORE then.
Yep. People tend to forget that there was a time about 40-50 years ago where college football was actually more popular with the masses than professional football. That didn't start to change until the advent of the Super Bowl and it wasn't the way it is now until the late-70s/early-80s.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 2:45 pm to Monticello
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1992: First year of the bowl coalition which began having an actual #1 v. #2 national title game. Also the beginning of conference championship games. 1992 is when college football started becoming a truly major national sport.
Monticello, I was coming to post this. That is what I consider "Modern era".
Posted on 8/4/15 at 2:47 pm to sabes que
Most experts agree on 1990.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 2:50 pm to Tornado Alley
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1980 to present
Yes because the wishbone and everything alabama did in the 60's and 70's was so far behind what we do today.
The wishbone was revolutionary in the 70's and football was a modern as it ever has been.
This post was edited on 8/4/15 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 8/4/15 at 3:11 pm to sabes que
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modern era
2000, it just works as it's a new millennium.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 3:39 pm to sabes que
Integration of football teams. No offense to all those white boys, but the game changed dramatically when the brothers got to suit up.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 3:55 pm to Tornado Alley
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1980 - present
I agree with this.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 4:06 pm to sabes que
I'm gonna say 1980 on.
The reason is that we began to see a lot more parity and have more new powerhouses created and/or middle of the road or previously good programs take giant leaps after that year (some of which admittedly have not necessarily maintained their lofty status.)
e.g. BYU, Boise State, Kansas State, Ga.Tech, Miami, Pittsburgh, Florida, Syracuse, Clemson, Fla. State. And later Oregon, Baylor, TCU, West Va., Mich. State, Stanford, Okla. State, etc.
The reason is that we began to see a lot more parity and have more new powerhouses created and/or middle of the road or previously good programs take giant leaps after that year (some of which admittedly have not necessarily maintained their lofty status.)
e.g. BYU, Boise State, Kansas State, Ga.Tech, Miami, Pittsburgh, Florida, Syracuse, Clemson, Fla. State. And later Oregon, Baylor, TCU, West Va., Mich. State, Stanford, Okla. State, etc.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 5:14 pm to sabes que
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Start of modern era
When integration was fully embraced by all programs. The early 70's.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 7:15 pm to sabes que
late 50's (I think) when the substitution rule was changed to allow platoon football.
or perhaps when the scholarship limit was reduced to 85.
or perhaps when the scholarship limit was reduced to 85.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 7:21 pm to MetryTyger
And the reason why all those teams started being competitive was two-fold...
1. By the early 80's the 95 scholarship rule, started in 78 started to make a difference.
2. Teams began to pass more and speed became more of a factor. AU, bama, UGA all gave up the wishbone and went to the I formation in the early 80s (1983 was the last wishbone team for AU). Miami also arose in 83 when they beat a bigger power Nebraska team with speed.
1. By the early 80's the 95 scholarship rule, started in 78 started to make a difference.
2. Teams began to pass more and speed became more of a factor. AU, bama, UGA all gave up the wishbone and went to the I formation in the early 80s (1983 was the last wishbone team for AU). Miami also arose in 83 when they beat a bigger power Nebraska team with speed.
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