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re: We don't need 8 teams in the playoff, we need four balanced conferences
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:01 am to cave canem
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:01 am to cave canem
I think the reason they did 4 was because they are going to remake the Conferences and come up with 4 sixteen team conferences... That works for football and basketball...
But 5 and 3 would work also.... But only if the Big 12 adds 2-4 teams so they have a conference champ game...
As far as the Big 12 I hope that Ohio St. gets ins... I have never seen a confernece that is so tilted for a couple of teams (Texas and OU) in my life.... IT would make the Gambino Crime family blush....
But 5 and 3 would work also.... But only if the Big 12 adds 2-4 teams so they have a conference champ game...
As far as the Big 12 I hope that Ohio St. gets ins... I have never seen a confernece that is so tilted for a couple of teams (Texas and OU) in my life.... IT would make the Gambino Crime family blush....
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:05 am to TeLeFaWx
There are exactly 64 power 5 teams + Notre Dame
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:11 am to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:No. That would destroy over 90% of teams.
Why not just get rid of "formulas" altogether?
Re-organize to eight conferences, conference champs get in. No wildcards, no byes, no formulas, no mulligans.
Look at the SEC West. You currently have Alabama, LSU and Auburn as legitimate contenders in any given year. No wildcards would mean only 1 program gets a look, and if someone is currently hot (like Bama in this case) the others are eliminated.
So- why, as a recruit, go to LSU or Auburn? Answer- you don't; Bama is the team. Or outside to a different region; like Florida St, TCU or Ohio St.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:13 am to rmftrtr
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5 conference champs and 3 top-rated non-conference champs determined by BCS formula. Goodbye committee. If you're on the bubble of #8/#9/#10: -- You're lucky to be there if you make it, -- If you don't make it, you don't have an argument. So simple, a 'tard can understand it.
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:16 am to TheJoseyWales
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they are going to remake the Conferences and come up with 4 sixteen team conferences.
And exactly who the frick is "they"?
Or let me put it to another way: Tell me which of the power 5 commissioners is gonna say, "Hey guys, you know what...this has been fun, but I don't really care if you guys just dissolve my job. I'm kind of tired of it anyway. And while you're at it, all those folks who work in our conference offices? They don't want to work any more either. You can kill their jobs while you're at it." Organizations like that exist to serve their own interests.
Talking about having four conferences is about as useful as talking about abolishing the US Department of Education or combining the FBI, DHS, ATF, and Secret Service into one law enforcement agency. Maybe it makes for interesting water cooler debate, but it will be a cold day in hell before it ever happens, so what's the point?
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:16 am to Crimson Legend
Exactly. The "controversy" this year is because there is not a clear and deserving fourth team. Has always been my argument that we are focused on inclusion rather than exclusion.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:17 am to Scoob
Dude, that shite made no sense.
Anyone arguing for wild-cards, should be arguing that State should have played Bama last night for the conference championship instead of Mizzou.
Anyone arguing for wild-cards, should be arguing that State should have played Bama last night for the conference championship instead of Mizzou.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:21 am to Crimson Legend
SEC was clearly down this year
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:21 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Anyone arguing for wild-cards, should be arguing that State should have played Bama last night for the conference championship instead of Mizzo
No...they're arguing that State should be in the playoffs even though they weren't playing last night.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:28 am to Crimson Legend
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We need all the major conference champs to get in
LOL
I understand your point however, as a Gump, don't you find this statement to be somewhat hypocritical?
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:30 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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There are exactly 64 power 5 teams + Notre Dame
Numbers aren't the issue. It's that you can't force teams on leagues.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:31 am to LSUwag
5 plus 3, with the BCS rankings.
This has been the result of every discussion I've ever had or heard regarding how to fix the playoffs. It makes sense and we'll get to laugh as 2 or 3 of the conference champs get destroyed every year.
This has been the result of every discussion I've ever had or heard regarding how to fix the playoffs. It makes sense and we'll get to laugh as 2 or 3 of the conference champs get destroyed every year.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:33 am to BamaGradinTn
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No...they're arguing that State should be in the playoffs even though they weren't playing last night.
What's the difference, State was clearly a better team than Mizzou, why shouldn't they get another shot at the conference championship?
Why is it fair that only division champions can go to the conference championship, but anyone can get to the national championship? That's inconsistant and hypocritical. We should use a committee to pick our conference championship matchups if we want to be consistant.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:43 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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What's the difference, State was clearly a better team than Mizzou, why shouldn't they get another shot at the conference championship?
Why is it fair that only division champions can go to the conference championship, but anyone can get to the national championship? That's inconsistant and hypocritical. We should use a committee to pick our conference championship matchups if we want to be consistant.
Solid point. Some of the people in this thread have some strange need to criticize suggestions as if it's personally offensive. We're talking about how thing should be, not how they are.
The inconsistencies in how conference champs are determined is very relevant to the conversation.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:54 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Why is it fair that only division champions can go to the conference championship, but anyone can get to the national championship? That's inconsistant and hypocritical.
No, it isn't. We have a method of determining the two participants for the championship game, just like we do in basketball...but anyone can get into the basketball championship as well. In fact, a half dozen teams may be able to get into the basketball championship.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:55 am to Crimson Legend
People want balanced conferences, but the divisions have never been balanced. Why have divisions?
Indeed, at this point, why have conferences?
I hate college basketball's playoff structure, even conference champions don't automatically qualify. That renders the conference championship as completely meaningless. I really don't want to see college football go down that road. I still respect the SEC football champions if no one else does.
BTW, congratulations on another championship season, Alabama
Let's hope in the future this won't be meaningless.
Indeed, at this point, why have conferences?
I hate college basketball's playoff structure, even conference champions don't automatically qualify. That renders the conference championship as completely meaningless. I really don't want to see college football go down that road. I still respect the SEC football champions if no one else does.
BTW, congratulations on another championship season, Alabama
Let's hope in the future this won't be meaningless.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:58 am to BamaGradinTn
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No, it isn't. We have a method of determining the two participants for the championship game
But it's different than the method of determining the participaants for the national championship. Why is it different? It's that difference that's inconsistant and hypocritical.
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just like we do in basketball...but anyone can get into the basketball championship as well.
Exactly, which renders the conference championship meaningless. Why do you want last night's accomplishment to be meaningless?
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:58 am to Crimson Legend
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The inconsistencies in how conference champs are determined is very relevant to the conversation.
Some play 8 games, the PAC has 9, the Big 12 doesn't have a championship game, and ND and BYU don't want to be in a conference. You can't force universities to do something they don't want to do. You can't force conferences to dissolve. No one finds such talk "offensive"...just pointless.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 10:59 am
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:00 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Exactly, which renders the conference championship meaningless. Why do you want last night's accomplishment to be meaningless?
I don't. I think that fewer teams are better...not more...which is why I'm perfectly OK with the current structure.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 11:00 am
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:05 am to Crimson Legend
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We just need a decent reorganization of the conferences and a consistent method of determining the champion.
because this is easier to accomplish than an 8 team playoff
we just need other teams to play better!
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