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re: Wall Street Journal: Schools have no idea what students want at CFB games
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:50 am to Bench McElroy
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:50 am to Bench McElroy
It's what we have all been thinking . . . this young generation is shite.
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Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:51 am to Bench McElroy
Stop scheduling garbage games, sell alcohol, and make it easier/cheaper for students to transfer tickets between themselves.
Posted on 7/17/15 at 10:05 am to SwaggerCopter
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Unless you're Texas A&M
Best student section in college football. Bar none.
Posted on 7/17/15 at 10:05 am to Old Hellen Yeller
It's easy, win games! As a UF student 05-09 you couldn't find seats, now they're a dime a dozen. But it doesn't help when the product on the field is so abysmal and the offense is nonexistent.
Posted on 7/17/15 at 10:14 am to TheUFGuy
Start selling liquor/ beer and students will stay the whole time. Set up some drink deals depending on the game too. Students would love that. And it would make the atmosphere better IMO
Posted on 7/17/15 at 10:21 am to Bench McElroy
Is it really that hard to figure out? For most teams, 3-4 of the games on the schedule are a complete joke. More and more powerhouse schools are moving towards these stupid neutral site games, which, unless you're playing in Jerry World, likely has less seats than the team's home stadium.
Couple that with the fact that depending on the year, your conference opponents might be complete trash. Alabama and Ole Miss were the only games worth going to at LSU last year, and the Wisconsin game was at NRG Stadium. Athletic director's are really f*cking stupid if they can't figure this out.
Posted on 7/17/15 at 10:28 am to IAmReality
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There's also way too many creampuff games. You play like 7-8 home games a year and 3-4 of them, roughly half, are tomato can games, just a gigantic waste of time.
There should be 1-2 of those games a year max.
This. And there should be none of them, at least not intentionally. Want younger generations to care? Have power 5 schools play only power 5 schools.
College football is the only mass market sport in the nation where the outcome of the game is practically guaranteed in 40-50% of a team's home games. The home fans only get 7-8 games each year. How can you expect us to fork over thousands of dollars when only 3 or 4 of those games are worth watching? If you want me to get out of my comfortable recliner with a cooler of beer next to me and a 60" tv in front of me, give me an experience in the stands that can beat that. Bama v. Western Carolina does not do that.
Posted on 7/17/15 at 10:33 am to MightyYat
Yes, but most of the fun of being a student at a football game is being super hammered with your friends yelling obscenities at the other team. And many students don't have that $1300 for the 70' TV.
Posted on 7/17/15 at 11:08 am to Bench McElroy
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Schools have no idea what students want at CFB games
Some schools do.
Those who seem to struggle are the ones filled with insecure students who try their hardest to play dress up, be chill and dope, and impress a bunch of dorks
I wouldn't enjoy that atmosphere either.
Come hang out with us in Aggieland--the beer's always cold, the Howdys are plentiful, and no one will give you shite.
Posted on 7/17/15 at 11:17 am to logjamming
Couldn't agree more. Get rid of the neutral site games every year. When your only worthy OOC game is at a neutral site, are you really surprised fan support dwindles? I bet Bama fans (and students) would be much more hyped up to go to Ann Arbor or Norman, OK than yet another trip to Atlanta or Jerrah World. Plus, you'd get those teams on the payback trip to Tuscaloosa.
Posted on 7/17/15 at 11:18 am to WG_Dawg
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frick.no. That is awful. The student section should be that...a place for students. If I was in the student section and was surrounded by adults telling people to sit down and quit spilling whiskey on everyone and to stop cussing I'd be irate.
When I was at Auburn anyone could sit in the student section as long as you had that ID. It's a little different from what was suggested but the ID didn't have to match the person so any student could "lend" their ID to anyone else for $$. It was never a problem with older people getting onto you b/c everyone knew what they were getting into by going into that section.
Posted on 7/17/15 at 11:25 am to Bench McElroy
Football is not a sport well suited to live entertainment when compared to it's TV counterpart.
The product and experience of watching the game on TV in the comfort of your own home is far superior. You have your own food, beer, and air conditioning, as well as the ability to hear immediate analysis from network analysts and see instant replays in HD. The view you get on TV is typically better than in the stadium. You have the freedom to do anything you want during commercial breaks.
In contrast, in the stadium you pay for grossly overpriced food, they don't sell beer, the weather can be miserably hot, miserably cold, rainy, etc. Instant replays are limited to one mediocre angle on the jumbotron. TV timeouts are excruciatingly boring. The amount of dead time between plays, timeouts, and quarters is exponential.
The Wall Street Journal states that there are only 11 minutes of real action during a roughly 3 hour football event LINK. The question if you want people to attend the games live, is how are you entertaining the crowd for the other 2 hours and 49 minutes?
The product and experience of watching the game on TV in the comfort of your own home is far superior. You have your own food, beer, and air conditioning, as well as the ability to hear immediate analysis from network analysts and see instant replays in HD. The view you get on TV is typically better than in the stadium. You have the freedom to do anything you want during commercial breaks.
In contrast, in the stadium you pay for grossly overpriced food, they don't sell beer, the weather can be miserably hot, miserably cold, rainy, etc. Instant replays are limited to one mediocre angle on the jumbotron. TV timeouts are excruciatingly boring. The amount of dead time between plays, timeouts, and quarters is exponential.
The Wall Street Journal states that there are only 11 minutes of real action during a roughly 3 hour football event LINK. The question if you want people to attend the games live, is how are you entertaining the crowd for the other 2 hours and 49 minutes?
Posted on 7/17/15 at 11:26 am to AubieALUMdvm
When I go to a college game on a Saturday it feels like I basically missed all of what else went on in the college football world. And I miss the real analysis of what went on in the game I am actually attending. That is the problem, you miss out on a lot going to the actual game. I have clamored for the jumbo tron at Ole Miss to go straight to a live feed of other games during every TV time out . Screw the ads. Unless it's a badass game, it's not worth going.
This post was edited on 7/17/15 at 11:56 am
Posted on 7/17/15 at 11:50 am to Bench McElroy
Students want alcohol sales, as comfortable of a setting as possible for most (especially sororities 
), team strength, competitive pricing, etc. Pricing is probably important for a lot of schools. My friends at Texas pay like $250 bucks for an "all-access" pass to UT athletic events. All of LSU's programs outside of football are free, and football tickets are $85.
I was surprised to hear UT nickels and dimes its student body for such a shitty product, but not exactly shocked
), team strength, competitive pricing, etc. Pricing is probably important for a lot of schools. My friends at Texas pay like $250 bucks for an "all-access" pass to UT athletic events. All of LSU's programs outside of football are free, and football tickets are $85. I was surprised to hear UT nickels and dimes its student body for such a shitty product, but not exactly shocked
Posted on 7/17/15 at 11:55 am to MightyYat
don't students get football game tickets for 'free', included in tuition basically?
That is how I remembered it being at Clemson in late 90s.
That is how I remembered it being at Clemson in late 90s.
This post was edited on 7/17/15 at 11:57 am
Posted on 7/17/15 at 11:57 am to Bench McElroy
Play less shite teams. I don't want to see LSU play some no name school I've never heard of
Posted on 7/17/15 at 11:57 am to GreyReb
That's another good point I didn't think of. Going to live feeds of each game would be badass
Posted on 7/17/15 at 12:02 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Couldn't agree more. Get rid of the neutral site games every year. When your only worthy OOC game is at a neutral site, are you really surprised fan support dwindles? I bet Bama fans (and students) would be much more hyped up to go to Ann Arbor or Norman, OK than yet another trip to Atlanta or Jerrah World. Plus, you'd get those teams on the payback trip to Tuscaloosa.
Yep. LSU playing in Lambeau field is going to be ridiculous, and I'm looking forward to the trip. That said, give me the Rose Bowl, Camp Randall, Happy Valley, or Notre Dame Stadium any day over the Georgia Dome, Jerry World, or NRG.
I'm sure fans in other conferences would say the same thing about Bryant Denny, Death Valley, and Between the Hedges.
Some of my best memories from undergrad were the road trips to other campuses, and with the SEC's bullshite scheduling and the neutral site garbage, that's becoming an increasingly rare opportunity.
Posted on 7/17/15 at 12:03 pm to TMRebel
It really is two issues
1. Stop scheduling garbage games
2. Stop requiring that student tickets be "transferred"
TV and beer are nonsense. We have had cable television for 40 years. No one was going to games because the TV reception wasn't in HD. Students have been sneaking alcohol into games since football began. Even if stadiums started selling beer you know it is going to be overpriced so students would still sneak alcohol in
1. Stop scheduling garbage games
2. Stop requiring that student tickets be "transferred"
TV and beer are nonsense. We have had cable television for 40 years. No one was going to games because the TV reception wasn't in HD. Students have been sneaking alcohol into games since football began. Even if stadiums started selling beer you know it is going to be overpriced so students would still sneak alcohol in
Posted on 7/17/15 at 12:06 pm to TMRebel
I will agree with what a lot of folks have said, its hard to get fired up to go see your team play the likes of Northern Montana's School for the Blind. Back in the day when there was only two football games on TV all day... sure, why not?
But now you can enjoy watching a beat down in the comfort of your own home and switch over to watch competitive games once the score gets out of hand.
Neutral site games only compound the problem. Jerry's World sort of works for Razorback fans because we have a large contingent of fans living in the Dallas area, but for a team like Bama I don't see the draw once you've been there and done that.
But now you can enjoy watching a beat down in the comfort of your own home and switch over to watch competitive games once the score gets out of hand.
Neutral site games only compound the problem. Jerry's World sort of works for Razorback fans because we have a large contingent of fans living in the Dallas area, but for a team like Bama I don't see the draw once you've been there and done that.
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