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re: Wake Forest & UNC Football Schedule Out of Conference Home/Home
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:35 pm to 2014cock
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:35 pm to 2014cock
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Soooo switch Auburn/Mizzou and have Bama/UT do this? Makes georgraphical sense and keeps that rivalry going.
The better plan is to move Auburn and Bama to the east and Mizzou and Vandy to the west. That way it keeps both the Iron Bowl and UT/Bama and all the other important rivalries (egg bowl, UF/UGA, UGA/AU) intact and then the SEC can do away with the cross division "rivals". That way every team in the east could/would play every team in the west twice every 4 years . That means a player that stays their entire 4 years plays every team and sees every SEC stadium at least once.
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:41 pm to undecided
Anyone saying this solves the SEC scheduling needs to reevaluate their critical thinking skills.
Say the SEC allows this to start, so Bama and UT begin to play their annual game OOC. Bama then goes 11-1 and wins the West. Their only loss is at home by 14 to 12-0 UT who wins the East. Bama then beats UT in the SECCG by 1.
Who gets the nod to go to the playoff?
Say the SEC allows this to start, so Bama and UT begin to play their annual game OOC. Bama then goes 11-1 and wins the West. Their only loss is at home by 14 to 12-0 UT who wins the East. Bama then beats UT in the SECCG by 1.
Who gets the nod to go to the playoff?
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:43 pm to RB10
How would that be any different that Bama losing to Tennessee in conference then turning around and beating them in the SEC title game?
If Bama wins out after the UT game they would be in the SEC title game no matter what so the same issue would remain regarding the playoffs.
If Bama wins out after the UT game they would be in the SEC title game no matter what so the same issue would remain regarding the playoffs.
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 1/26/15 at 1:29 pm to Dr RC
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How would that be any different that Bama losing to Tennessee in conference then turning around and beating them in the SEC title game?
It's completely different. Technically, Bama would be undefeated in SEC play and would be SEC Champs. However, Tenn would have the superior OOC schedule and would have beaten Bama in Tuscaloosa.
Not only would it be a clusterfrick for the committee, it would devalue the SECCG in that situation. That's something they aren't going to let happen.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 1:42 pm to RB10
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Technically, Bama would be undefeated in SEC play and would be SEC Champs.
So what if they are technically undefeated in SEC play? They would still be the SEC champs NO MATTER WHAT if they went to the SEC championship game and beat Tennessee in the rematch. It would have nothing to do with their record in SEC play b/c for them to make the SEC championship game at 11-1 they still have go undefeated in the West and vs their other SEC opponents.
If it was still a conference game dropping a single game to UT would still not stop Bama from getting to the SEC championship if they finished 11-1 for the year.
It doesn't devalue the SEC title game anymore than a potential rematch of an 11-1 LSU vs 12-0 Florida would.
Tennessee wouldn't have the "superior" OOC schedule to Bama b/c they won the game either. They would both get credit for scheduling a great OOC opponent.
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 1/26/15 at 1:46 pm to RB10
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Say the SEC allows this to start, so Bama and UT begin to play their annual game OOC. Bama then goes 11-1 and wins the West. Their only loss is at home by 14 to 12-0 UT who wins the East. Bama then beats UT in the SECCG by 1.
Who gets the nod to go to the playoff?
Bama as the SEC Champion. What's your point? The exact same scenario could play out any year, with the way it is currently structured (aside from being an OOC game). A team in the SEC title game could lose to a team they already beat.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 1:52 pm to Dr RC
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It doesn't devalue the SEC title game anymore than a potential LSU/Florida rematch would
Yes it does.
You don't think the rest of the West would feel cheated if any team gets to schedule one of the stronger teams from the other division as an OOC opponent rather than a permanent cross division opponent? You don't think that has any bearing on the outcome of the SEC championship?
Posted on 1/26/15 at 1:57 pm to RB10
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You don't think the rest of the West would feel cheated if any team gets to schedule one of the stronger teams from the other division as an OOC opponent rather than a permanent cross division opponent? You don't think that has any bearing on the outcome of the SEC championship?
how the hell is the rest of the West getting cheated if Bama go undefeated against them all in conference play?
The only way you could say that the rest of the West could possibly get screwed is if Alabama dropped a division game to a school that lost 2 conference games.
It would have to be something like Alabama 10-2 (7-1) getting in over an Auburn 10-2 (6-2) that beat them head to head.
There is no way for a 11-1 Bama that has a loss to Tennessee OOC to get in over a more deserving West team b/c they would still have the head to head victory over every other team in the West.
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 1/26/15 at 1:58 pm to RB10
The schedules aren't balanced anyway.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 2:06 pm to Dr RC
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how the hell is the rest of the West getting cheated if Bama go undefeated against them all in conference play?
I haven't done a very good job explaining myself. I'm sick and at work so I'm not exactly on my A game here.
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It would have to be something like Alabama 10-2 (7-1) getting in over an Auburn 10-2 (6-2) that beat them head to head
This is essentially what I was getting at, saying Bama was undefeated in conference is where I screwed it up.
If this were to happen it would cheapen Bama's SEC title and cause quite an uproar from most of the SEC. A loss to Tenn in an OOC matchup would cause chaos if the season were to play out this way.
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 1/26/15 at 2:22 pm to undecided
Bama/UT and UGA/Auburn, take notes and start doing this instead of making the whole conference suffer for y'alls shitty annual series
Posted on 1/26/15 at 2:27 pm to Cockopotamus
This practice might become more common since several of the Power Five Conferences are mandating that their members play at least 1 Power Five OOC game a year...
The scheduling problems & logistics involved could make this happen more often in the future...
The scheduling problems & logistics involved could make this happen more often in the future...
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 1/26/15 at 2:47 pm to dallasga6
Conference expansion sucks and IMO is detrimental to the long-term health of the conference. That being said, it is here and it has happened, so I applaud UNC and Wake for taking steps to play their game more often.
A better solution would be a nine game conference schedule, but some teams are too chickensh*t to do that.
A better solution would be a nine game conference schedule, but some teams are too chickensh*t to do that.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 2:50 pm to RB10
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If this were to happen it would cheapen Bama's SEC title and cause quite an uproar from most of the SEC. A loss to Tenn in an OOC matchup would cause chaos if the season were to play out this way.
I'm sorry, but in a hypothetical within which Auburn goes 6-2 in conference, beats Bama, but Bama goes 7-1, with an additional loss to UT as an OOC game...I have zero sympathy for Auburn. They should have played better in their two losses. Tough shite.
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 1/26/15 at 3:22 pm to Smalls
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I'm sorry, but in a hypothetical within which Auburn goes 6-2 in conference, beats Bama, but Bama goes 7-1, with an additional loss to UT as an OOC game...I have zero sympathy for Auburn. They should have played better in their two losses. Tough shite.
I'm sure you'd feel the same way if it were LSU is AU's position.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 3:54 pm to RB10
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I'm sure you'd feel the same way if it were LSU is AU's position.
I would actually. I'm not sure why you're struggling with this.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 3:56 pm to Smalls
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would actually. I'm not sure why you're struggling with this
Probably because you're full of shite.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 7:16 pm to RB10
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Probably because you're full of shite.
Alright, chief.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 7:21 pm to undecided
WF is scurred of the Dores!
After playing them home and home for years they now would rather play the Tar Heels!
Anchor Down!
After playing them home and home for years they now would rather play the Tar Heels!
Anchor Down!
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:09 pm to Montezuma
i'd prefer teams have to play every team in conference every year. divisions tend to lead to not the best team winning the conference.
I don't see why anybody would care if two conference teams decide to play each other in a season they aren't set to play in conference. I'd be ok with Clemson not playing SC anymore and replacing with ACC school like va tech.
Wake is probably going to shutter their football program soon anyway b/c it loses money.
I don't see why anybody would care if two conference teams decide to play each other in a season they aren't set to play in conference. I'd be ok with Clemson not playing SC anymore and replacing with ACC school like va tech.
Wake is probably going to shutter their football program soon anyway b/c it loses money.
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 9:18 pm
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