re: Vols : Do you agree with your national title claims in Neyland?

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Irrelevant, final polls came out before the bowl. 

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Tennessee wasn't #1 in the final poll.

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Final score all game combined.

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I wasn't aware that organization awarded championships.

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SHOCKED

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Are you as equally shocked when I spread my hate of other teams in other threads?

...Or are you just narcissistic?

Tennessee can probably make a viable claim to 4 of those - 1938, 1950, 1951, and 1998. 1940 and 1967 are from very obscure selectors (Dunkel and Litkenhous, respectively). They could probably make better claims on different years in the 30s to make up for those two silly ones, though.

Bama should replace 1941 with 1945, 1964 with 1966, and 1973 with 1977. It all comes out in a wash, but it's a shame the most viable options aren't always chosen.

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Do you agree with every NC that the University of Alabama claims?

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All but 41, even though Alabama's place in the AP poll that year is about as bad as Alabama claiming the national championship.

Legit National Championships should follow a simple pattern on if they are legit, based on the year of the championship.


Pre-1936: AP poll didn't exist, so math polls are the big ones to go too. Many schools will cross claim these.

After 1936, Math polls should be removed(that removes 41 for Alabama) and only AP(and eventually coaches polls) should count from 1936-1997.

Now, as far as before or after the bowl game - bowl games were exhibition games back then, so whatever the poll awards is what matters.

And then obviously you have BCS era only counting and now playoffs only counting.

Any that don't meet those standards are bullshite claims IMO. Claiming AP polls during the BCS era is as bad as claiming math rankings during the poll era, etc(cough USC cough).

*exceptions* When the AP poll first came out in 1936, it was pretty biased. In some cases where it's obvious they were wrong and every other measure pretty much says it, I'm fine with claims.

So, I'd say legit Tennessee National Championships are as follows:

1938(#2 AP but see exception above).
1951
1998

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Tennessee can probably make a viable claim to 4 of those - 1938, 1950, 1951, and 1998. 1940 and 1967 are from very obscure selectors (Dunkel and Litkenhous, respectively). They could probably make better claims on different years in the 30s to make up for those two silly ones, though.

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40 was at least recognized by 2 separate polls (But I can understand why people would dispute it). 1967 is the real head scratcher for me. We had several undefeated seasons in the early 30s, claimed no titles from those years.

That's Tennessee Farm Bulletin type b.s.

NCAA.com lists the only 2 legitimate years. 1951 and 1998.

2015 Alabama CFP
2014 Ohio State CFP
2013 Florida State BCS
2012 Alabama BCS
2011 Alabama BCS
2010 Auburn BCS
2009 Alabama BCS
2008 Florida BCS
2007 Louisiana State BCS
2006 Florida BCS
2005 Texas BCS
2004 Southern California BCS
2003 Louisiana State, Southern California BCS, AP, FWAA
2002 Ohio State BCS
2001 Miami (Fla.) BCS
2000 Oklahoma BCS
1999 Florida State BCS
1998 Tennessee BCS
1997 Michigan, Nebraska AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/ESPN
1996 Florida AP, FWAA, NFF,USA/CNN
1995 Nebraska AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1994 Nebraska AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1993 Florida St. AP, FWAA,NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1992 Alabama AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1991 Washington, Miami (Fla.) FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI,AP
1990 Colorado, Georgia Tech FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, AP, UPI
1989 Miami (Fla.) AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1988 Notre Dame AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1987 Miami (Fla.) AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1986 Penn St. AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1985 Oklahoma AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1984 Brigham Young AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1983 Miami (Fla.) AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1982 Penn St. AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1981 Clemson AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1980 Georgia AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1979 Alabama AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1978 Alabama, Southern California AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1977 Notre Dame AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1976 Pittsburgh AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1975 Oklahoma AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1974 Southern California, Oklahoma FWAA, NFF, UPI, AP
1973 Notre Dame, Alabama AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1972 Southern California AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1971 Nebraska AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1970 Nebraska, Texas, Ohio St. AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI, NFF
1969 Texas AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1968 Ohio St. AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1967 Southern California AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1966 Notre Dame, Michigan St. AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI, NFF
1965 Michigan St., Alabama FWAA, NFF, UPI, AP
1964 Alabama, Arkansas, Notre Dame AP, UPI, FWAA, NFF
1963 Texas AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1962 Southern California AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1961 Alabama, Ohio St. AP, NFF, UPI, FWAA
1960 Minnesota, Mississippi AP, NFF, UPI, FWAA
1959 Syracuse AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1958 LSU, Iowa AP, UPI, FWAA
1957 Ohio St., Auburn FWAA, UPI, AP
1956 Oklahoma AP, FWAA, UPI
1955 Oklahoma AP, FWAA, UPI
1954 UCLA, Ohio St. FWAA, UPI, AP
1953 Maryland AP, UPI
1952 Michigan St. AP, UPI
1951 Tennessee AP, UPI
1950 Oklahoma AP, UPI
1949 Notre Dame AP
1948 Michigan AP
1947 Notre Dame AP
1946 Notre Dame AP
1945 Army AP
1944 Army AP
1943 Notre Dame AP
1942 Ohio St. AP
1941 Minnesota AP
1940 Minnesota AP
1939 Texas A&M AP
1938 Texas Christian AP
1937 Pittsburgh AP
1936 Minnesota AP
1935 Minnesota CFRA, HAF, NCF
1934 Minnesota CFRA, HAF, NCF
1933 Michigan CFRA, HAF, NCF
1932 Southern California CFRA, HAF, NCF
1931 Southern California CFRA, HAF, NCF
1930 Alabama, Notre Dame CFRA, HAF, NCF
1929 Notre Dame CFRA, HAF, NCF
1928 Georgia Tech. CFRA, HAF, NCF
1927 Illinois, Yale HAF, NCF, CFRA
1926 Alabama, Stanford CFRA, HAF, NCF, HAF
1925 Alabama CFRA, HAF, NCF
1924 Notre Dame CFRA, HAF, NCF
1923 Illinois, Michigan CFRA, HAF, NCF, NCF
1922 California, Cornell Princeton, NCF, HAF, CFRA, NCF
1921 California, Cornell CFRA, NCF, HAF
1920 California CFRA, HAF, NCF
1919 Harvard, Illinois, Notre Dame, Texas A&M CFRA, HAF, NCF, CFRA, NCF, NCF
1918 Michigan, Pittsburg NCF, HAF, NCF
1917 Georgia Tech. HAF, NCF
1916 Pittsburgh HAF, NCF
1915 Cornell HAF, NCF
1914 Army HAF, NCF
1913 Harvard HAF, NCF
1912 Harvard, Penn St. HAF, NCF, NCF
1911 Penn St., Princeton NCF, HAF, NCF
1910 Harvard, Pittsburgh HAF, NCF, NCF
1909 Yale HAF, NCF
1908 LSU, Pennsylvania NCF, HAF, NCF
1907 Yale HAF, NCF
1906 Princeton HAF, NCF
1905 Chicago HAF, NCF

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1908 LSU, Pennsylvania NCF, HAF, NCF

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You see? I have no clue why we dont claim 1908. It makes zero sense

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Yes....If we were like Bama we'd have about 10 more banners up there however

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You see that ncaa.com list above? It credits Alabama with 14. Doesn't include 1934 (and certainly not 1941, which is more akin to those bogus titles you are claiming). Fine with me. Actually, I would be good counting only AP/UPI (coaches poll) and the recent BCS and playoff titles.

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